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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Real question is: Why do Korean women think of us only as temporary playtoys and are only curious on the surface level? Why they usually do not introduce us in their life (friends for example, etc) ? |
Do you even need to ask that questions? To start, if you cannot speak Korean then how do you expect to be introduced to their other friends. Furthermore I think Koreans are less forthcoming in regards to introducing boyfriends to their parents regardless whether it is a Korean boyfriend or a western boyfriend. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Back home they tend to develop in something more in a greater percentage then here where they go as Nautilus says back to the real life - Korean men. |
Any stats to prove this and not just your personal experiences? Furthermore it should not be suprising that possibily not as many relationships develop here. Many English teachers only come for a year. How serious would you get with a foreigner back home if you knew they were only going to be around for a year? |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| But it's really just most of the women they meet. Maybe it sounds like pop-psych BS, but I honestly think that people try to date more-or-less the same person over and over. |
True, it reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who always treated the guys who were nice to here like beep. The ones who gave her attitude, she fell in love with. |
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YoungDay
Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I generally think that Korean women are pretty much like most women inn the world. You have some angels, you have some hoe's (as quoted on this site before, about 20% of the population here) and you have everything in between.
Therefore, I really try to judge every person in the context of the situation. To make a blanket statement about the moral scruples (or lack there of) of K women removes them from the context of the situation in which they find themselves in. Everyone's situation is different and you never know exactly (unless you really probe, and even then) what each person's story and history is. The worst thing a person can do is to judge every woman in a country by a few cases of women.
One the same note, it also really annoys me when many Korean people (and many apologists) try to to assert the reverse and say the EVERY Korean girl is an untouched "Virgin Flower" and much less skeezier and has a higher moral threshold when compared to a western woman. Again, it comes down to the context of the situation...
That being said in any country, if you're looking for good decent girls you'll find them. If you're looking for them hoes you'll find them hoes too:wink: |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| That being said in any country, if you're looking for good decent girls you'll find them. If you're looking for them hoes you'll find them hoes too:wink: |
I think that sums this one up. Too bad this post can't be locked right now! |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| That being said in any country, if you're looking for good decent girls you'll find them. If you're looking for them hoes you'll find them hoes too:wink: |
I think that sums this one up. Too bad this post can't be locked right now! |
Just a Korean girl who is good looking and somewhat speaks English or is even fluent in English without living in an English speaking country is more likely to be a hoe.
About 90% of women don't speak English, so many decent girls are out of reach. And learning Korean for 2-3 years to become fluent just to meet decent girls is a bit too much and not a good reason for learning and getting older anyway. |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Real question is: Why do Korean women think of us only as temporary playtoys and are only curious on the surface level? Why they usually do not introduce us in their life (friends for example, etc) ? |
Do you even need to ask that questions? To start, if you cannot speak Korean then how do you expect to be introduced to their other friends. Furthermore I think Koreans are less forthcoming in regards to introducing boyfriends to their parents regardless whether it is a Korean boyfriend or a western boyfriend. |
Well, if the girl wanted to date a guy who speaks Korean, she would probably date a Korean guy.
If she doesn't introduce you to other people and starts slowly intergrating you in her daily life, it makes it much easier for her to just dump you by stopping all contacts.
How many of you guys did you actually have a break-up talk with a girl that you thought you were dating and something is going on?
Usually in my experience they just break contact without you see it coming since everything is rosy. That is one thing I absolutely hate dating K-girls - so cowardly and immature. |
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numazawa

Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: The Concrete Barnyard
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| That being said in any country, if you're looking for good decent girls you'll find them. If you're looking for them hoes you'll find them hoes too:wink: |
I think that sums this one up. Too bad this post can't be locked right now! |
Well, okay then, we'll lock your post, but you're still welcomed back any time.  |
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jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Real question is: Why do Korean women think of us only as temporary playtoys and are only curious on the surface level? Why they usually do not introduce us in their life (friends for example, etc) ? |
Do you even need to ask that questions? To start, if you cannot speak Korean then how do you expect to be introduced to their other friends. Furthermore I think Koreans are less forthcoming in regards to introducing boyfriends to their parents regardless whether it is a Korean boyfriend or a western boyfriend. |
Well, if the girl wanted to date a guy who speaks Korean, she would probably date a Korean guy.
If she doesn't introduce you to other people and starts slowly intergrating you in her daily life, it makes it much easier for her to just dump you by stopping all contacts.
How many of you guys did you actually have a break-up talk with a girl that you thought you were dating and something is going on?
Usually in my experience they just break contact without you see it coming since everything is rosy. That is one thing I absolutely hate dating K-girls - so cowardly and immature. |
You win this thread. |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Usually in my experience they just break contact without you see it coming since everything is rosy. That is one thing I absolutely hate dating K-girls - so cowardly and immature. |
You win this thread. |
Thanx man. I appreciate you finally got some sense about what is being discussed in this thread.
Happy hunting tonight and let the bed rock! It is the new year afterall - and action after midnight means many more to come in the next year  |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Some of you people sure are comfortable with using the word 'ho'. I know it's become common parlance and maybe I'm old fashioned, but I don't like it. I think people should be careful with these kinds of judgemental, castigating, categorizing words.
self-righteous speech of the day: done. |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Usually in my experience they just break contact without you see it coming since everything is rosy. That is one thing I absolutely hate dating K-girls - so cowardly and immature.
You win this thread. |
To us its cowardly. To them, its a face-saving measure for your benefit.
On the other hand..I haven't really witnessed much raw courage or bravery on the part of K-dolls. They are probably the least pro-active of women, they never take risks , they make sure the cards are stacked in their favour before playing, they keep spare guys in reserve, they keep a long term b/f as insurance.
Where is the love ? |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, if the girl wanted to date a guy who speaks Korean, she would probably date a Korean guy. |
Then why don't you only date British, American, Canadian, and Australian girls. If your logic holds true wouldn�t foreign guys only date Koreans who spoke Korean to them.
Furthermore, I have never heard anything as ridiculous as this. I doubt too many girls date guys just because of the language they speak. Sure some might go out on a date with you to practice their English but that is not dating. I have dated German girls who I have never spoken English with. I even dated a Korean who I only spoke Korean with.
I am guessing that all but some weird Korean women date westerners for every reason but the fact they speak English. Some reason might be: wanting to leave the country even though I think that the average Korean woman wants to stay in Korea, different expectations in a relationship, love, they are lonely, a foreign might be a little more interesting than your run of the mill Korean guy... |
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Mashimaro

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: location, location
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Usually in my experience they just break contact without you see it coming since everything is rosy. That is one thing I absolutely hate dating K-girls - so cowardly and immature.
You win this thread. |
To us its cowardly. To them, its a face-saving measure for your benefit.
On the other hand..I haven't really witnessed much raw courage or bravery on the part of K-dolls. They are probably the least pro-active of women, they never take risks , they make sure the cards are stacked in their favour before playing, they keep spare guys in reserve, they keep a long term b/f as insurance.
Where is the love ? |
A good friend (who is extremely successful with women) once told me, play or be played. Yes a lot of Korean women are playing the game, and if you don't know the rules, you can get hurt. Once you are making the rules though, it's a whole new story. That is not to say, be dishonest, you can still be honest and be the player and not the playee. Then once you find your ideal woman who you can trust, commit to being faithful. |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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A good friend (who is extremely successful with women) once told me, play or be played. Yes a lot of Korean women are playing the game, and if you don't know the rules, you can get hurt. Once you are making the rules though, it's a whole new story. That is not to say, be dishonest, you can still be honest and be the player and not the playee. Then once you find your ideal woman who you can trust, commit to being faithful. |
To find the one you can trust, you would have to risk trusting her first-thus putting the game aside for a moment.
If you only date women who are clearly more into you than you are them, then its easy to be the player. If you actually go for what you want..then inevitably.. you get played.
Women ultimately get what they want, men have to put up with whatever they get. Unless you can keep the act going ..forever, presumably. |
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