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Do You Badmouth Korea to Your Korean Partner?
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aldershot



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Do You Badmouth Korea to Your Korean Partner? Reply with quote

I've gotten into this nasty habit. i generally really enjoy things korean, but something that drives me nuts is the korean man. don't get me wrong, i have a few korean guy friends, but generally korean men are...lack...seem to... well, they fall short of a lot of expectations from a human being.

when an ajoshi annoys me, is racist to me, threatens me physically (korea is NOT soft!), i am given an excuse to uphold my lofty generalization about korean men.

the problem is this: i talk about it to my lady friend. i unload all of my ajoshi-misgivings on her. i think i've brain-washed her.

now when we travel abroad, we tend to meet others from all over the globe. conversations go like this:

other traveller: "so where are you from?"
my girlfriend: "korea. it's nice there, but I CAN'T STAND KOREAN MEN!!"
other traveller: "hmmmm"
me: "they eat lots of kimchi there...uhm..."

anyone else out there talk crap about korea to their korean partners? what's their reaction to it?
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PimpofKorea



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always bad-mouth things I hate about Korea to my Korean wife...some things she agrees with...others...well..what can ya do..
As far as Korean men..they are the worst part of Korea hands down...but surprisingly I have had little problems with them. Friends of mine and other people I've heard of have had problems with them. I guess the average Korean man would be afraid to go toe-to-toe with as I am a lot bigger and stronger than him and wouldn't think twice about dropkicking his yellow azz into next Chuseok.
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where are you from?, and how would you feel about your korean partner making broad stereotypical comments regarding people from your country. Personally after a while i would get pissed off about it, then again, i'm only human.
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Tarmangani



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: the Calm

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try not to say anything about Korean people, but I do say a lot of negative things about Korean places. It's hard for me to justify riding the bus for three hours to go to a mountain that looks identical to the one five minutes from my apartment building/neighborhood (which looks identical to every other apartment/neighborhood in this country.)
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think my wife's originally from North Korea. So these days I generally keep my opinions regarding Korea and Koreans to myself. For fear of getting poisoned or shanked in my sleep.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: Do You Badmouth Korea to Your Korean Partner? Reply with quote

aldershot wrote:
I've gotten into this nasty habit. i generally really enjoy things korean, but something that drives me nuts is the korean man. don't get me wrong, i have a few korean guy friends, but generally korean men are...lack...seem to... well, they fall short of a lot of expectations from a human being.

when an ajoshi annoys me, is racist to me, threatens me physically (korea is NOT soft!), i am given an excuse to uphold my lofty generalization about korean men.

the problem is this: i talk about it to my lady friend. i unload all of my ajoshi-misgivings on her. i think i've brain-washed her.

now when we travel abroad, we tend to meet others from all over the globe. conversations go like this:

other traveller: "so where are you from?"
my girlfriend: "korea. it's nice there, but I CAN'T STAND KOREAN MEN!!"
other traveller: "hmmmm"
me: "they eat lots of kimchi there...uhm..."

anyone else out there talk crap about korea to their korean partners? what's their reaction to it?


I nearly had to defend myself from a Gyopo "English Teacher" last night at about 7:30pm.

He ridiculed my syllabus (University of Toronto style) for a T.O.E.F.L. Speaking class and then said to me that he did not think that I even went to high school. I asked the fork to step outside for a minute but the forker wimped out and told me that he'd ruin my rep at the school.

Gyopo scum, eh.


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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

babtangee wrote:
I think my wife's originally from North Korea. So these days I generally keep my opinions regarding Korea and Koreans to myself. For fear of getting poisoned or shanked in my sleep.


My cousin from King's County, P.E.I. has a violent adjuma wife-uh. She's attacked the two of us with bottles, shoes, and, when he was reporting her to the I'taewon police, she tried to end-uh my life-uh with a knife-uh - a knife-uh with my name stamped on it, eh.

God, if there is an alleged female I should hate with all my heart, it's this thing.

Happy New Year!

Go Team U.S.A.!

Rochie
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The majority of korean men are there own worst enemy and give koreans a bad name. Not that I am siding with the women.....but....I suppose that because men have ruled korea for so long...they have forgotten how to act and treat women....it's learned behavior....copy what the father does and the cycle just can't be broken.
Buying sex, red light districts, abuse, etc.... has been going on in korea long before the white man ever stepped foot in korea.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmangani wrote:
I try not to say anything about Korean people, but I do say a lot of negative things about Korean places. It's hard for me to justify riding the bus for three hours to go to a mountain that looks identical to the one five minutes from my apartment building/neighborhood (which looks identical to every other apartment/neighborhood in this country.)


Word.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rawiri wrote:
where are you from?, and how would you feel about your korean partner making broad stereotypical comments regarding people from your country. Personally after a while i would get pissed off about it, then again, i'm only human.


You have-uh very mixed-uh feelings about your place in the Land of the Morning Calm.

No offense, Mate.

Take a stand, eh.
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mehhh....I tend to try to let most things pass, aside from the whole pedestrian crossing malarkey. thats about the only thing i regularly complain about on here.
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aldershot



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, yes, yes, but what do your partners say? does s/he disagree with you and defend the mother land? or has s/he been reverse-brainwashed... like my lady?
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP asks all posters (both sexes) about badmouthing Korea -- the country -- to their Korean partners and about the consequences of that. But so far, all the respondents have all been male. And they've nearly all put Korean men at the top of their (s)hit-lists. This sausage party we call Dave's Sausage Party Cafe really gets boring often.

Perhaps ajosshis are also the main, No. 1 gripe of Western women in Korea as well. Or perhaps not. I'd like to hear their replies to the OP. Do Western women come home after work and say (though in not so many words) to their Korean partner: "Gosh I'm so lucky you're not like most K-men. Because it's just like the male posters on Dave's say, K-men are the worst thing about Korea. For example, get a load of what my boss/cab driver/freak on the subway/pervert loitering in the stairwell/etc. did today" ? Or are they more diplomatic and sensitive to the feelings of their K-spouse/K-partner than I think most of us dudes tend to be? Or are they more miffed about the lack of a ready & cheap supply of Nine West shoes and booties?
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dog_disco



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...My Korean wife has one phrase she drops whenever I have any issues with this place: "If you don't like it, go back to your country". Absolutely right. There is no defence against this. She then usually counters with some absurdity which occurs in Canada which equals, if not not makes the offending Korean behavior pale by comparison. It's like there's b.s everywhere, and then there's the b.s I'm used to. In more or less equal proportions.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dog_disco wrote:
...My Korean wife has one phrase she drops whenever I have any issues with this place: "If you don't like it, go back to your country". Absolutely right. There is no defence against this. She then usually counters with some absurdity which occurs in Canada which equals, if not not makes the offending Korean behavior pale by comparison. It's like there's b.s everywhere, and then there's the b.s I'm used to. In more or less equal proportions.


No offense intended: She's lacking in basic math skills and their application to Korea.
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