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semphoon
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is
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Dog meat? Give me a break! |
This seems to be saying that Koreans would find the idea of eating dog meat ridiculous. Maybe I am misinterpreting it.
Why did you phrase it like this?
Are you saying �Of course, Koreans would never eat dog meat� or �I can�t defend Koreans for eating dog meat�?
You know Koreans eat dog meat.
Why you lie, huh? Huh? Yeah.....excuse me while I have a LIE down and take in the BIG FAT LIE.
Lie. |
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4 months left
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| I like how they are very concerned about their children's education and manners more than they might be in North America. |
Maybe you should go to a Korean restaurant sometime, Korean children are the worst mannered kids I have ever seen. There is absolutely no discipline whatsoever. They do what they want and the parents don't say a word.
As far as education goes it's more keeping up with the Kim's and the Lee's. If their children get a good job then the more money the parents get when they retire. Also is there a bigger waste of money than Korean University? Sure maybe 5 - 10% actually study but the rest drink 5 days a week and graduate becuase they ATTEND classes. In North America many work to pay for school and actually have to study to graduate, it's called learning responsibility. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| semphoon wrote: |
| MESL wrote: |
Dog meat? Give me a break! |
This seems to be saying that Koreans would find the idea of eating dog meat ridiculous. Maybe I am misinterpreting it.
Why did you phrase it like this?
Are you saying �Of course, Koreans would never eat dog meat� or �I can�t defend Koreans for eating dog meat�?
You know Koreans eat dog meat.
Why you lie, huh? Huh? Yeah.....excuse me while I have a LIE down and take in the BIG FAT LIE.
Lie. |
My guess is he or she is saying dog meat is 낫 딜리셔스. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| JongnoGuru wrote: |
Please be advised that dodging the swear-filtre, which is a violation of the TOS, will not enable you to escape any punishment.
-- The Management |
Damn, are they still FLICKING that message around? |
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MESL
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, I've heard about the Nigerians working in the factories. And if you go to the Hannam imported groceries store, you'll find a slew of ads on the bulletin board saying, "I'm a Philippina looking for work." My travel agent in Itaewon is African. But you don't see in Korea the level of foreign manual labor that you see in Saudi Arabia or the American southwest. Nor will you hear this in Seoul as often as you will in Los Angeles: "My father is nationality X and my mother is nationality Y." I don't know how many times I've been asked, "Do Koreans really eat dog meat?" Yes, some Koreans eat dog meat, but is that your take on Korean culture? |
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:29 am Post subject: |
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ABSOLUTELY LOVING:
i'm paraphrasing
"wait for you to get off the subway"
"store owners don't quote higher prices to foreigners"
"loud voices are reserved for the karaoke"
"few beggars"
"damaged care are almost extinct"
Like other posters, I suppose that if you're comparing Korea to some 3rd world country, than you have some points. But a lot of them just sound like nonsense when you compare Korea to more developed nations. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| i had someone hold the door open for me a few days ago. I was so surprised my voice nearly failed me but I managed to sputter out a thankyou. |
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semphoon
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, some Koreans eat dog meat, but is that your take on Korean culture? |
"Yes, Koreans eat dog meat" seems to be the opposite of "Eat dog meat? Give me a break."
I like my life style as an English teacher in Korea. I get paid well and have so much leisure time to go to the gym and do martial arts as my working hours are much shorter than what they would be back home. My apartment is paid for and food here is much cheaper than the UK. Restaurants are everywhere with food that is great. And dok-pokki stands also rock. The public transport system is excellent. This is a very safe country. Even though I lived in a poor area where I was the only foreigner, I never felt in danger while walking the streets at night. In the UK, if I were a rich immigrant living among poorer citizens, I wouldn�t feel comfortable walking alone at night. I have seen two fights happening in Korea...in Itaewon.
I am back home in the UK now. I cant wait to get back to Korea in mid-January. I like the 24 hour culture of Korea as well. In the UK, everything closes at 6pm. Maybe some shops are open until 9. Here in the UK, my family recently bought a cooker. To install this it cost �80 ($150). And some fitters said we would have to wait for 3 WEEKS. In Korea, you could get this done in a few hours for a bottle of soju.
I would not like to be a Korean living in Korea -all the hagwons, the pressure of middle and high school, AND then national service. After that, I get married and work long hours in an office (even though I may not actually be doing any work). After finishing work, I have to be social by going to the business club where I am encouraged to cheat on my wife.
Business clubs? Give me a break!  |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, I've heard about the Nigerians working in the factories. And if you go to the Hannam imported groceries store, you'll find a slew of ads on the bulletin board saying, "I'm a Philippina looking for work." My travel agent in Itaewon is African. But you don't see in Korea the level of foreign manual labor that you see in Saudi Arabia or the American southwest. Nor will you hear this in Seoul as often as you will in Los Angeles: "My father is nationality X and my mother is nationality Y." I don't know how many times I've been asked, "Do Koreans really eat dog meat?" Yes, some Koreans eat dog meat, but is that your take on Korean culture? |
Your letter seems naive and superficial, though not unreasonable until we get to ...
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| So 99.99% of the people you'll pass on the sidewalk will be pure blood Koreans. |
Then you just sound like a moron. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, I've heard about the Nigerians working in the factories. And if you go to the Hannam imported groceries store, you'll find a slew of ads on the bulletin board saying, "I'm a Philippina looking for work." My travel agent in Itaewon is African. But you don't see in Korea the level of foreign manual labor that you see in Saudi Arabia or the American southwest. Nor will you hear this in Seoul as often as you will in Los Angeles: "My father is nationality X and my mother is nationality Y." I don't know how many times I've been asked, "Do Koreans really eat dog meat?" Yes, some Koreans eat dog meat, but is that your take on Korean culture? |
You are trying to have your cake and eat it, too. Korea, on one hand, you want compare with countries in the Middle East, and, on the other hand, you want them to be compared with the West. Certainly, Korea is far better than Middle Eastern countries and places except for Dubai, perhaps, which has more Western food, more tourism, nice beaches etc...
Korea is one of the better countries in the world, but it has to do a lot to catch up with Western Europe and North America in terms of processing and dealing with legal workers and combatting discrimination. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| I like how they are very concerned about their children's education and manners more than they might be in North America. |
I hope you're being sarcastic. Some do, but certainly not the ones who dump their kids in hagwons all day long. That isn't educating them.
My dad would take me out on field trips to gather water and plant samples for his research (so I'd understand the importance of protecting the environment). We'd also go hiking so he could teach me how to recognize birds by their song and so my brother and I could learn to differentiate the mushrooms that were edible from those that were not. He let me play with his science books the moment I could read and answered all the questions I had. My mom stopped lecturing at the college for 3 years to spend more time with us. She'd encouraged us to read by buying us a comic book each every week. She would also take us to the theatre and to recitals. That's what I call being concerned with your kid's education.
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MESL
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| In the airport in Saudi Arabia, if you're Saudi, you cut in front ot the foreigners. In China, getting service is an absolutely barbaric ritual, with everyone in the room trying to out jostle one another. In Vietnam, the restaurant promoters would jump in front of you on the sidewalk, and the booksellers would interrupt your meal. In Cambodia, the informal taxi drivers would howl at you and overwhelm you. In Egypt, I had to bribe the guards just to get into the airport. A Chinese restaurant looks like the scene of a recent food fight. In Saudi Arabia, I had to buy a transformer for my fridge and pay someone with a special instrument to identify which plugs were 220 and which were 110, and I lost count of the different prongs. I had extension cords strung everywhere. I could go on. Don't get me wrong. Lebanon, Jordan, Singapore, Japan, and Hong Kong are modern and efficient, Thailand is clean. Thais, Cambodians, and Syrians are laid back and friendly. Korea has beggars and salesmen on the subway, and the ESL industry is absolutely shark infested. I enjoy traveling, exploring other cultures, making new friends, trying out the food, etc. But when I land in Korea, I breath a sigh of relieve almost as big as when I land in the United States. |
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MESL
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| In China, the first comment I heard from Americans about China was cutting in line. In America, Bill Gates and Ross Perot wait in line at the bank and post office, and they wouldn't be allowed to cut if they tried. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| In the airport in Saudi Arabia, if you're Saudi, you cut in front ot the foreigners. In China, getting service is an absolutely barbaric ritual, with everyone in the room trying to out jostle one another. In Vietnam, the restaurant promoters would jump in front of you on the sidewalk, and the booksellers would interrupt your meal. In Cambodia, the informal taxi drivers would howl at you and overwhelm you. In Egypt, I had to bribe the guards just to get into the airport. A Chinese restaurant looks like the scene of a recent food fight. In Saudi Arabia, I had to buy a transformer for my fridge and pay someone with a special instrument to identify which plugs were 220 and which were 110, and I lost count of the different prongs. I had extension cords strung everywhere. I could go on. Don't get me wrong. Lebanon, Jordan, Singapore, Japan, and Hong Kong are modern and efficient, Thailand is clean. Thais, Cambodians, and Syrians are laid back and friendly. Korea has beggars and salesmen on the subway, and the ESL industry is absolutely shark infested. I enjoy traveling, exploring other cultures, making new friends, trying out the food, etc. But when I land in Korea, I breath a sigh of relieve almost as big as when I land in the United States. |
Here we go, now this is a lot more sensible. I think in your OP you were trying too hard to convey that final sentiment (about relief) and ended up jumping the shark early on. |
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MESL
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| No, there's a lot more about Korean culture that impresses me than the civilized public behavior. People who read my original post should not be so cynical. I meant what I said. Granted, this is only my take, but it's genuine. |
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