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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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 Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: Secret Service Complicity in the JFK Assassination |
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For those of you who have researched the JFK assassination , you have surely have come to the disturbing conclusion that the Secret Service was involved, and in fact, enabled the killing.
It's a no brainer actually, since the Secret Service did nothing once the shots rang out that day. Although JFK was surrounded by 10 Secret Service Agents including his driver, Irish American William Greer, Roy Kellerman in the front seat of the Presidential Limousine, and the EIGHT Secret Service Agents in the "Queen Mary", the follow up car a few feet behind the Presidential Limousine, none of them moved to protect the President once the shots rang out. The Agents protecting Johnson did however, act like they were trained to do, and jumped all over LBJ as JFK was being executed.
You can see this with your own eyes in the photographs of the day.
Everything I say here is also documented by eyewitnesses.
There were 6 seconds between the first shot and the fatal one, and the Agents did NOTHING.
When JFK was good and dead, and only when JFK was good and dead , did Greer speed away.
From the Education Forum:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com
Witnesses tell us what they either did as far as when they took their photos in relation to the first shot, what JFK was doing when the first shot was fired, and right up until the time the President's head explodes. Each film frame is 1/18th of a second in time, so do the math. This isn't a matter of guessing where the limo was when the first shot sounded. The Betzner and Willis photos can be calculated against the Zapruder film as to when they were taken. Woodard said as he was right in front of her and had smiled and waved at her when that shot went off. I see no real dificulty in understanding how those things apply to the LN theory. It means that there wasn't enough time for the alleged Oswald rifle top recycle another shot - let alone find the target in that Hollywood scope and fire again. Of course you are a Oswald acted alone supporter, so I can see why you are against the Zapruder film being a time clock of the assassinatio... that's not my problem.
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: Secret Service Complicity in the JFK Assassination |
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| regicide wrote: |
For those of you who have researched the JFK assassination , you have surely have come to the disturbing conclusion that the Secret Service was involved, and in fact, enabled the killing.
It's a no brainer actually, since the Secret Service did nothing once the shots rang out that day. Although JFK was surrounded by 10 Secret Service Agents including his driver, Irish American William Greer, Roy Kellerman in the front seat of the Presidential Limousine, and the EIGHT Secret Service Agents in the "Queen Mary", the follow up car a few feet behind the Presidential Limousine, none of them moved to protect the President once the shots rang out. The Agents protecting Johnson did however, do like they were trained to do and jump all over LBJ as JFK was being executed.
You can see this with your own eyes in the photographs of the day.
Everything I say here is also documented by eyewitnesses.
There were 6 seconds between the first shot and the fatal one, and the Agents did NOTHING.
When JFK was good and dead, and only when JFK was good and dead , did Greer speed away. |
6 seconds..not much time at all for them to react and do anything. Besides at that time no one could possibly see where the shots were coming from.
Lee Harvey Oswald killed him. GET OVER IT PEOPLE.
Why do some people always need for their to be some kind of conspiracy |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Secret Service Complicity in the JFK Assassination |
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| regicide wrote: |
For those of you who have researched the JFK assassination , you have surely have come to the disturbing conclusion that the Secret Service was involved, and in fact, enabled the killing.
It's a no brainer actually, since the Secret Service did nothing once the shots rang out that day. Although JFK was surrounded by 10 Secret Service Agents including his driver, Irish American William Greer, Roy Kellerman in the front seat of the Presidential Limousine, and the EIGHT Secret Service Agents in the "Queen Mary", the follow up car a few feet behind the Presidential Limousine, none of them moved to protect the President once the shots rang out. The Agents protecting Johnson did however, do like they were trained to do and jump all over LBJ as JFK was being executed.
You can see this with your own eyes in the photographs of the day.
Everything I say here is also documented by eyewitnesses.
There were 6 seconds between the first shot and the fatal one, and the Agents did NOTHING.
When JFK was good and dead, and only when JFK was good and dead , did Greer speed away. |
They have since learnt from their mistakes. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Elvis told me it was the Mafia that did it for the Cuban Exiles.
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Secret Service Complicity in the JFK Assassination |
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| regicide wrote: |
For those of you who have researched the JFK assassination , you have surely have come to the disturbing conclusion that the Secret Service was involved, and in fact, enabled the killing.
6 seconds..not much time at all for them to react and do anything. Besides at that time no one could possibly see where the shots were coming from.
Lee Harvey Oswald killed him. GET OVER IT PEOPLE.
Why do some people always need for their to be some kind of conspiracy[?] |
Surely you jest? Agent Kellerman could have jumped into the back seat and the EIGHT Secret Service Agents in the "Queen Mary" , the follow up car, which was right behind the Presidential Limo , could have been all over Kennedy blocking shots from any direction. Not to mention the fact that Agent Greer could have sped away. They did not do what they are trained to do for some reason. They just froze. Secret Service Agents just standing there as shots are being fired.
While Specter managed to sell his "single bullet theory" to the Warren Commission, he had trouble selling it to the American public. A recent New York Times/CBS poll found that 77 percent of Americans rejected the Warren Report's conclusions.
From "Survivors Guilt"
Despite riding on an automobile that was only a scant five feet away from JFK's slow-moving car (less than 12 mph) at the start of the shooting, Hill could only arrive in time to "protect" Mrs. Kennedy, the person to which he was assigned to protect.
Kellerman, in particular, seems dirty as hell. In "Trauma Room 1" he's consistently shown as the "thug" who is in charge of stealing President Kennedy's body from Parkland. He actually pulls a machine gun on the doctors and officials attempting to prevent the theft, and Dr Crenshaw, the author, feels certain he would have killed anyone in his way.
Have you seen the Zapruder film? The film that shows the shot from the front? Oswald was above and behind the motorcade. It is pretty hard to shoot someone in the right temple from above and behind.
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Elvis told me it was the Mafia that did it for the Cuban Exiles. |
Marilyn Monroe's ghost told me it was her ex-husband Arthur Miller's 'people' who did it--sexual jealousy. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Elvis told me it was the Mafia that did it for the Cuban Exiles. |
Marilyn Monroe's ghost told me it was her ex-husband Arthur Miller's 'people' who did it--sexual jealousy. |
Elvis did-it-stuff to distract from the truth.
It is called disinformation and it is a way to discredit any opposition to the official story. For many, it is the "cool" thing to do, and it often builds up their self esteem. It began with the tabloids back in the sixties and comes in many flavors.
An example of this method can be seen in the book "Jackie , Ari and Jack" , a book that says Mrs. Kennedy had Aristotle Onassis kill her husband.
For those of you who actually want to take an honest look at what happened I recommend " Survivors Guilt" by Vince Palamara who can also be seen in the banned episodes of the Men Who Killed Kennedy.
On November 22nd of this year, Vince Palamara paid a generous tribute to JFK research. Vince has spent many years researching the Secret Service and why they failed to protect the President. The result is his book Survivor's Guilt, which he has now made freely available online:
http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v4n1.html |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh yes, I believe wholeheartedly in the magic bullet theory - you remember, the one that killed Kennedy and then exited and shot the other guy in the leg. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| As the immortal (dead but immortal) Yogi Berra said, "It's deja vu all over again." |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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| Elvis told me it was the Mafia that did it for the Cuban Exiles. |
Marilyn Monroe's ghost told me it was her ex-husband Arthur Miller's 'people' who did it--sexual jealousy. |
Elvis did-it-stuff to distract from the truth. |
No it doesn't. Your fantasy distracts you from the truth. Get over it. Kennedy was not killed by a massive government conspiracy, oh Oliver Stone Jr. Don't you got anything better to do with your time? Like why aren't you wanking away with the 9/11 conspiracy types. Isn't that the real conspiracy du jour? |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course, that single bullet caused what is referred to as "all the non-fatal wounds" that Kennedy suffered but death was caused by the head shot. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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I confess. I did it.
Because he let the dogs out.
Also shot the sheriff. But not the deputy. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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By the way, poll question is the most absurd one I've yet seen here. Conspiracy theorists' wet dream.
My "no" vote means this: no Secret Service complicity/involvement in JFK's assassination; no coup d'etat occurred either. There is no evidence at all to even hint at either one of those allegations. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
By the way, poll question is the most absurd one I've yet seen here. Conspiracy theorists' wet dream.
My "no" vote means this: no Secret Service complicity/involvement in JFK's assassination; no coup d'etat occurred either. There is no evidence at all to even hint at either one of those allegations. |
While Specter managed to sell his "single bullet theory" to the Warren Commission, he had trouble selling it to the American public. A recent New York Times/CBS poll found that 77 percent of Americans rejected the Warren Report's conclusions. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: History Will Not Absolve Us:Orwellian Control, Public Denial |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| regicide wrote: |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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| Elvis told me it was the Mafia that did it for the Cuban Exiles. |
Marilyn Monroe's ghost told me it was her ex-husband Arthur Miller's 'people' who did it--sexual jealousy. |
Elvis did-it-stuff to distract from the truth. |
No it doesn't. Your fantasy distracts you from the truth. Get over it. Kennedy was not killed by a massive government conspiracy, oh Oliver Stone Jr. Don't you got anything better to do with your time? Like why aren't you *beep* away with the 9/11 conspiracy types. Isn't that the real conspiracy du jour? |
Smarter people than you do not agree with the above nonsense.
Thought-provoking expose, February 18, 1998
Reviewer: Reuben Zimmerman (New York) - See all my reviews
This little-known book contains the distilled thought of a group of prominent and well-respected lawyers and psychiatrists,
who were convinced as early as 1963 that Kennedy was shot by the CIA (at the behest of the military-industrial complex) for his increasingly "soft" stance toward Cuba and the USSR.
The Catholic Peace Voice, Winter 1998
"The conclusions are inescapable. The implications go to the very root of US dysfunction... [the author] has guided us to the ocean floor of our national psyche. What kind of people are we who can live for 35 years in denial of government forces that killed a president who sought peace?"
The book contains facts that are both obvious and sinister, and lends credence to Schotz's assertion that almost everyone in America today "believes" in some conspiracy to kill Kennedy, but doesn't really want to know.
The book's only weakness is its occasionally overly-complex language; this is not unexpected, given the profession of its authors.
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