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The Race Is On! (Korean Pres. Election)

 
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: The Race Is On! (Korean Pres. Election) Reply with quote

There is a nice article summarizing Korean politics, including thumb-nail bios of the likely candidates in this year's presidential election. Useful for people who want to become familiar with the names we'll be seeing in the next few months.

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200701/01/200701010030033439900092309231.html
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Milwaukiedave



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Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta,

Yes, it will be an interesting election. Let's hope whoever wins this time has a little bit stronger political will to do the job then Roh does. What will really be interesting is whether the new president will be less willing to work with the US or not. I'm betting with the anti-American sentiment the person will be less cooperative.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm betting with the anti-American sentiment the person will be less cooperative.


I guess I'm more optimistic than you are. In my opinion, the anti-Americanism of '02 has died down and when the next episode happens, it will be much milder.

I think the issues will be 1) the economy, which isn't terrible, but most people think 5% growth is low and 2) the lousy job Roh has done. Nine years and counting of the Sunshine policy and I think people have wised up that just bending over for the Norks hasn't paid off.

This kind of headline in the Chosun Ilbo is not going to help the 'progressive' parties: N.Korea Calls for GNP Defeat in 2007 Presidential Poll

Right now, the election is Hanara's to lose:

Ex-Seoul Mayor Miles Ahead Among Presidential Hopefuls

Former Seoul mayor Lee Myung-bak came top in every poll published in the media on Monday, scoring an average of 42 percent support, more than 20 percentage points ahead of the runner-up. The figure is exceptionally high given that neither ruling nor opposition parties have decided on their presidential candidates yet and there are still numerous hopefuls in the running. Some insiders say Lee will sweep the presidential elections this year. Pollsters believe Lee is enjoying a so-called bandwagon effect: news of his increasing support rates is persuading more people to declare for him. But they also say the public, some 70-80 percent of whom named reviving the economy as the top priority for the next administration, perceive Lee as economically savvy.

Some warn that Lee's sky-high support is only a short-term phenomenon and he is benefiting from disappointment at the administration and the ruling party. But GNP lawmakers say the support will hold since it is based on Lee's past performance and achievements.

I was here for the last two elections and they were humdingers. This one looks (at this point) like it will be pretty mild. On the other hand, this is Korea and nothing goes as expected.
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My two cents. 1) The ex-mayor, I was kind of indifferent to him, I like the stream he built but not being able to secure some sort of garuntee that all of the Yongsan Army Base would be turned into a "central park" (and not just another crappy set of apartment blocks) was a sho, for me at least. Also his whacky plan to build a canal to Pusan seems a bit out there and a tad unnecessary, but this is the land of the unfinished bridge. I was also told that he is a Jesus-nut, and that scares me.

2) The dictator's daughter. Enough said.
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-Ta,

I'm trying to stay positive about the election. I hope whoever wins is able to figure out how to keep the economy growing at a steady speed.

I'm with OH, as long as it's not the dictator's daughter I'm sure the next person will do a much better job.
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4 months left



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This ain't no race. I talked to students about this and because he is in the lead they all like him and think he will win easily. Don't want to rock the boat and go against the grain...he wins in a landslide! Print it!!
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4MonthsLeft, Don't count your chickens yet. This is the land of trunk fulls of cash and girls getting run over. It only takes one screwup to send the election to someone else. When the dictator's daughter was slashed she became the frontrunner and had the election benn held that week she would have won. This country and these people flip-flop more than John Kerry.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not convinced that electing her would be such a bad thing. For one thing, we could be pretty sure that none of her advisors will turn out to be former members of Hanchongryon. Besides, it would be cool for South Korean women if for once one of them ruled the country. As my mom would say, "She can't do a worse job than the men"...then again, it wouldn't be difficult to do a better job than the last few presidents.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm trying to stay positive about the election. I hope whoever wins is able to figure out how to keep the economy growing at a steady speed.

I'm with OH, as long as it's not the dictator's daughter I'm sure the next person will do a much better job.


Mr. Milwaukie,

I'm pulling for someone, anyone, in the Hanara Party. It's because I'm a fan of governments changing ruling parties from time to time, just to keep things centered. Peaceful changes of government are just good things in themselves.

I can see backing Park the Dictator's Daughter. Except for who her dad was, I don't know what anyone has against her. Being a decent president would go a long way in cleaning up the family reputation. She's probably as divisive as Hillary, but maybe forcing people to mentally revisit those years would clear up some things--like just how much of Nork political philosophy the general public favors. It wouldn't hurt women's rights either.

I know the public perception is that the economy is bad, but I don't really see it. 5% growth is healthy. Mature economies don't have 10% growth. DJ led the country out of the financial collapse of '97 in record time. That's something the left has to be proud of. The trouble is, they quit too soon. The Hub of Asia thing is a good idea, but this is a case where appearance is not as important as substance. Personally, I'm pulling for a BIG stock market surge around January of next year when my investment matures. Very Happy In my opinion, Hanara has the brains, experience and will (not to mention the connections) to continue the reforms necessary to get the Hub idea really moving.

No idea why anyone wants to put in a canal from Seoul to Busan. More train lines would be easier and achieve the same thing. The most interesting idea is something about a speeded up way to trade with China. Something like that might be enough to push KJI into real reforms. Maybe even enough for him to open up the railroad connections.
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can see backing Park the Dictator's Daughter. Except for who her dad was, I don't know what anyone has against her. Being a decent president would go a long way in cleaning up the family reputation. She's probably as divisive as Hillary, but maybe forcing people to mentally revisit those years would clear up some things--like just how much of Nork political philosophy the general public favors. It wouldn't hurt women's rights either.



I want a woman to be president, the current woman PM is a great thing for this country. However comparing Park to Hillary isn't fair. A better comparison would be Park to Raghad Hussein, Saddam's oldest daughter. Would that be ok? No, of course not. I think for the sake of Korean being considered a "real" democracy they should not give her the presidency.
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