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sundubuman



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: the Francophony Ban.... Reply with quote

style over substance......our first Korean UN Secretery...

Is Ban Ki-moon a franco-phoney?
Dec. 14, 2006

Jacques Chirac is probably kicking himself.

The incoming secretary general of the United Nations can barely speak a word of French.

Once considered the main language of diplomacy, le fran�ais has lost its �lan.

Just moments after Ban Ki-moon recited his oath of office to become the eighth secretary general in UN history, he read a carefully scripted speech that included three paragraphs in French. However, during his first news conference with the UN press corps afterwards, he could barely muster a 'pardon?'

In Canada we're familiar with the politics of language � our federal leaders must be bilingual or at least make a convincing effort to show they're trying. At the UN, the "linguipolitik" is even more pronounced.

The official languages of the UN are English, French, Spanish, Russian, Arabic and Chinese. But the main working languages of the UN have traditionally been English and French. In fact, France puts such importance behind its mother tongue that it will not support a candidate for secretary general who doesn't speak French.

Which brings us to Ban Ki-moon.

French government officials tell me that President Jacques Chirac only gave his nod to Ban when they learned he was taking French lessons. As a permanent member of the UN Security Council, France was one of five countries with the power to veto the selection of the new secretary general.

On the day of Ban's nomination as secretary general in October, I told the UN press office I planned to ask him a question in French at his news conference that afternoon.

As an employee of both the CBC and its sister French-language network Radio-Canada, I have the privilege of working in both of Canada's official languages. I dutifully wrote my name at the top of the sign-up list for journalists asking questions, but I never got the chance.

Blame it on bad luck or deliberate manipulation, but only English questions were permitted at the incoming secretary general's debut performance. I was determined not to let it happen again.

Over the last week I e-mailed and harangued the UN press office, demanding the chance to ask Ban a question in French on behalf of Radio-Canada following his swearing-in ceremony on Dec. 14.

My request caused considerable discussion behind the scenes. Several UN officials contacted me.

They all said they couldn't guarantee the incoming secretary general would respond to my question in French. One UN staffer told me one of Ban's advisers had insisted that questions in French be limited during his live news conference.

So what happened after the swearing in ceremony came as a surprise. The first question went as usual to the president of the United Nations Correspondents Association.

The second question went to me. I asked Ban why he thinks French should remain the second official working language of the United Nations. A challenging question for any politician, much less one that doesn't appear to understand French! Ban looked startled when I posed my question in French.

The UN provided a live interpreter, but he still struggled. He said he had trouble hearing me, even though I was seated in the front row of the news conference. I repeated the question and he mumbled an indecipherable reply in mangled French.

The UN employee moderating the news conference tried to explain the question. Ban, whose resum� proclaims he speaks English and French, responded in English.

This isn't a big story for English-speakers around the world.

But in la Francophonie, Ban Ki-moon's difficulty with French � when it's supposed to be the second language of the organization he now heads � is definitely a diplomatic faux pas.
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, I'm beginning to like our new secretery....
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pas de probl�me � deux questions...mais plus? En tout cas Ban Ki-moon 콤밧!

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Le Sud-cor�en Ban Ki-moon, qui a �t� officiellement investi nouveau secr�taire g�n�ral des Nations unies hier � New York, risque d'avoir maille � partir avec les journalistes francophones.

La France exige que tous les secr�taires g�n�raux s'expriment en fran�ais, et l'ancien ministre sud-cor�en des Affaires �trang�res, qui remplacera Kofi Annan au 1er janvier, est soumis � des cours intensifs.

Mais quand un journaliste l'a interrog� en fran�ais, lors de la conf�rence de presse qui a suivi la c�r�monie d'investiture, Ban Ki-moon a �t� d�stabilis�, expliquant qu'il n'avait pas saisi la question parce qu'un interpr�te des Nations unies la traduisait en anglais via un haut-parleur.

�Si vous pouviez parler plus lentement en fran�ais, je ferai de mon mieux, mais c'est tr�s difficile pour moi de vous r�pondre en fran�ais de but en blanc�, a dit Ban au journaliste canadien qui l'interrogeait.

L'interpr�te lui a alors r�p�t� la question -qui �tait de savoir si le fran�ais doit rester la deuxi�me langue d'usage avec l'anglais- mais, cette fois, Ban a expliqu� qu'il avait du mal � entendre...

Le chef de la division presse et m�dias des Nations unies qui dirigeait la conf�rence de presse, Ahmad Fawzi, a alors r�p�t� une nouvelle fois la question.

M. Ban a r�pondu, en anglais, que les �tats-membres avaient opt� pour l'utilisation de six langues officielles -anglais, fran�ais, espagnol, russe, chinois et arabe- et pour l'usage de l'anglais et du fran�ais lors des r�unions informelles ou semi-officielles.

Apr�s cette conf�rence de presse, Ban Ki-moon a accord� une interview � une cha�ne fran�aise de t�l�vision et ses collaborateurs ont fait savoir qu'il avait r�pondu en fran�ais sans probl�me � deux questions.
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh that's great news....he can answer 2 questions in a language which he claims to be wasting his time studying, a language by the way, which is going nowhere rapide...or is that vite....

meanwhile the Earth spins and what? a dozen? or so languages grow ever more important than French by the day.

I wonder if the citizens of countries speaking those more widespread languages will expect the UN leader to speak their tongue....or will they be less, how shall I say, pr�somptueux......
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:
Oh that's great news....he can answer 2 questions in a language which he claims to be wasting his time studying, a language by the way, which is going nowhere rapide...or is that vite....

meanwhile the Earth spins and what? a dozen? or so languages grow ever more important than French by the day.

I wonder if the citizens of countries speaking those more widespread languages will expect the UN leader to speak their tongue....or will they be less, how shall I say, pr�somptueux......


I think the future of French depends on the areas in Africa where it's spoken (18 countries, larger land area than the US, 250+ million people). If they eventually manage to do well then the language will as well, but if not then that's the language's loss I suppose.

Don't worry, I'll have the world speaking one of my favourite constructed languages in a decade or two and you won't need to worry about French.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Western Europe does not even count anymore with respect to getting doctoral funding via Fulbright.

And none of its languages count for much with respect to Fulbright or any other foreign language/area studies funding for that matter.

If these considerations mean anything, then Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Farsi, Russian, and a host of East European and other nonWestern languages -- even languages like Quechua and Aymara -- are far more important than French, German, or Italian, for example.

My own foreign languages are Spanish and Portuguese. These hardly even count as "foreign languages" anymore. But at least I can sell them as Mithridates is selling French, above: these languages remain in the former colonial world (Latin America and subSaharan Africa, in my case).

So the Secretary-General has difficulty with French? So what? It is an anachronism that the UN still gives so much weight to French. Perhaps it is time to revise this now...
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been wondering lately whether Turkic languages are going to gain strength as well in a decade or so. Turkey has a consistently strong growth rate, Azerbaijan grew at a phenomenal 35% last year (!), Kazakhstan's doing great too, crazy dictator in Turkmenistan died so who knows, maybe they'll get lucky...they also stretch all the way into Uyghur in western China too.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are not referring to economic growth (GNP, GDP), are you?
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe he is. one word to explain azerbaijan: oil.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

French died a long time a go just after the magna carta.

Once the Brits stopped using it, it had no real purpose.

Dead Language for sure.

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mithridates



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
You are not referring to economic growth (GNP, GDP), are you?


Yep, economic growth. That's thanks to the BTC pipeline. Azerbaijan's president is very happy. Basically it's a pipeline from the Caspian Sea through Georgia, then into Turkey at Ceyhan and into the Mediterranian, the first pipeline that doesn't require Russia's permission to use, and for a country as small as Azerbaijan that's huge.

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I would like to congratulate you on the occasion of the New Year! The year 2006 is about to end. Overall, it has been a very successful year for Azerbaijan. Our country has become stronger. It has strengthened its positions in the world. The socio-political atmosphere in the country is very good. In 2006, Azerbaijan has managed to keep the rate of economic growth at the high level. It is the second year in a row that our country has ranked first by this parameter. It is, of course, a great success to lead the world in any sphere, especially, in the most important economic indicator such as the gross domestic product growth rate. In 2006, our economy has grown by 35% against 26% in 2005. This indicator has certainly played a major role in the overall development of Azerbaijan.
In the past three years, much has been done to eliminate unemployment in the country. Some 500.000 new jobs have been created over this period. As I stated during my presidential campaign, 600.000 jobs would be created in Azerbaijan in five years - 500.000 of them have already been created. The poverty level is being decreased quickly in Azerbaijan.
With new infrastructure projects realized, our regions are undergoing modernization, renewal and fast socio-economic development.
At the same time, Azerbaijan�s social policy is quite strong. Social issues need constant attention. This is one of main directions of my policy. Pensions and wages increase every year. The minimum pension and wage will be once again increased from January 1, 2007. Of course, the amount of wages and pensions is not what we would like to see yet, but the growth is quite dynamic. With reducing poverty and unemployment in Azerbaijan, people will have a higher standard of living in the near future. This is our main objective. Everything for people, everything for the nation of Azerbaijan! The people of Azerbaijan should live better, and this, definitely, needs continued economic and political reforms. Effective social policy is needed for overall development of our country.
Massive construction and repair works have been done this year. Hundreds of new schools, World-standard hospitals have been built. Construction of new roads including highways and community roads, as well as the significant efforts to solve transportation problems in the city of Baku are in progress.
In other word, we are doing this to make people�s life more convenient for the country�s infrastructure to become stronger, and, in general, to give a greater impetus to development.
Another reason why 2006 is of historical importance to us is that two historic events took place in Azerbaijan this year: the oil pipeline Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan has been put into operation, and we managed to achieve first gas from Shah Deniz field. These two historic events will define the long-term strategy of development in Azerbaijan, increase its economic power, and, of course, strengthen our country�s positions in the world.
The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan is a historical achievement for Azerbaijan. It is not just an oil pipeline, not only an infrastructure project to deliver Azerbaijan�s oil to the world markets. It is of significant geopolitical importance. Since the start-up of the pipeline, Azerbaijan has already seen its great outcomes. The State oil fund of Azerbaijan has collected billions of dollars. The amount of our currency resources exceeds $4 billion, and the budget revenues increased 4-fold in the past three years. While Azerbaijan�s budget was just about $1.500.000.000 billion in 2003, it is going to make up $6.500.000.000 in 2007. All this is based on The Contract of the Century signed in 1994 at the initiative of the great leader Heydar Aliyev. We are reaping the benefit now and will so in the future.
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