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Skarp
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 Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:42 am Post subject: Long stay strategies? |
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Sorry if this is an old topic.
I'd like to hear from folks who are staying in Korea long term. 5+ years.
I am particularly interested in how they handle their increasing skill/experience as teachers in a job market that for the most part just wants hired hands.
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Arthur Fonzerelli
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Suwon
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I'm interested in hearing from people as well...
Does anyone think getting the MA and teaching at a university is a safe gig to work until you retire (mid 60's)?
Seems like universities are hiring just about anybody these days...
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beach bum
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: surfin'...
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| i teach at a university in korea. in the department for which i teach, every lecturer has an m.a. most here agree a university gig may not pay as much as an institute, but the hours are easier and the vacation time is much longer. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Skarp, as a newbie to ESL teaching in Korea, it's natural that you're wondering about your longterm prospects. I did too nearly a year ago. I decided that the teacher-is-just-a-disposable-commodity attitude can serve me well in encouraging mobility. Not only do more opportunities for employment arise in such cases, but there's great chance to get around and live in different places.
To live under the illusion that you could live in the same Korean place for twenty-odd years is dangerous and unproductive. Don't settle down, just fit in and move around. Or rage against the gimchi makers. It's up to you. Gain experience nonetheless and you'll have opportunities coming out of the wazoo.
Good luck, whatever your longterm attitude. |
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Skarp
Joined: 22 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm expecting to change jobs often and don't expect to stay in the same place for very long.
I'm not sure what my specific question is......
.....I suppose I want advice/suggestions for managing the transition from job to job.
Is it best for instance to finish each contract before moving on to the next one?
Is it easy to go back into hakwans after time in a University? Do schools set much store by references?
Is it worth keeping up with preofessional development?
These are issues short-stayers don't need to consider of course.
Thanks
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kimcheeking
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
To live under the illusion that you could live in the same Korean place for twenty-odd years is dangerous and unproductive. |
Well the pastor at my church has lived her for 22 years and I think that he has a very succussful life and fits in very well. I've lived here for 6+ and plan on staying for another 3-5 years.
To survive in Korea, you need to have friends, both Korean and expat. Preferably expats who are going to stay more than 12 months. You also need to know how to accept some of the crap that goes on in this country.
I said this way back in January I think
"know whats important, what to like, what to hate, and how to ignore the rest" - not an exact quote but something like that. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member. (Mark Twain) |
(From the sig)
I thought Woody allen said this?
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BTM
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Back in the saddle.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Harpeau wrote: |
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| I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member. (Mark Twain) |
(From the sig)
I thought Woody allen said this?
Harpeau |
Actually, it was Groucho Marx. |
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beach bum
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: surfin'...
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| BTM wrote: |
| Harpeau wrote: |
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| I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member. (Mark Twain) |
(From the sig)
I thought Woody allen said this?
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Actually, it was Groucho Marx. |
seriously? was it groucho or woody?
it was the first thing that came to mind when i was filling in the "profile" info. i couldn't remember where i read or heard it, so i attributed it to mark twain.  |
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