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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:29 am Post subject: Israeli Experts Say Middle East Was Safer W/ Saddam in Iraq |
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Israeli Experts Say Middle East Was Safer With Saddam in Iraq
Orly Halpern | Fri. Jan 05, 2007
Jerusalem - Although few tears were shed in Israel over Saddam Hussein�s death last week, a small but growing chorus � including government officials, academics and Iraqi �migr�s � is warning that Israel could find itself in more danger with him gone, and that it might even regret having welcomed his toppling.
�If I knew then what I know today, I would not have recommended going to war, because Saddam was far less dangerous than I thought,� said Haifa University political scientist Amatzia Baram, one of Israel�s leading Iraq experts.
Saddam was feared and reviled in Israel, both as a tyrant and as an enemy of the Jewish state. He demonstratively supported Palestinian terrorists, and few have forgiven his bombarding of Israel with Scud missiles during the 1991 Gulf War
http://www.forward.com/articles/israeli-experts-say-middle-east-was-safer-with-sad/ |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Adventurer: it is boring. Three, four threads at a time telling extolling America's faults, errors, and shortcomings. You are not even original about it.
We already have R.S. Refugee and others constantly patrolling their favorite antiAmerican news and op-ed sources and reposting them here in what is clearly a propaganda campaign.
People's views on this forum are more or less fixed. You do not seem to have taken that into account.
Still, our conversations can be profitable and exciting, particularly when something comes up that attracts much commentary. This does not usually persuade anyone to change their views, however. Rather, I, for one, consider it extremely valuable because it allows us to test our analyses and arguments against what can be a hostile audience so that we can restate our positions more fairly and take objections into account. There are other benefits as well.
You dislike American conservatives and most of America's foreign policies post-1945. You dislike Israel. You are antiwar. W. Bush erred when he invaded Iraq and toppled Saddam. We get it. Can we move on now...? |
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bignate

Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Location: Hell's Ditch
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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How is this post either anti-American, anti- Israeli, or anti-war???
Last time I checked this was the Current Events Forum, and not the defend every post adnauseum with the same Gopherism over and over again....
The post has a point: Many in the Israeli security establishment are second guessing their support for the overthrow of Saddam due to his buffering of a very hostile Iran. That an oppressive regime in Iraq was perferrable to a very unstable, predominantly Shia, almost "chaotic" regime that exists now.
The only mention of the US in the whole article was
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Yuval Diskin, director of the Shin Bet security service, told a group of students in a military preparatory program last May that Israel might come to regret its support for the American-led invasion in March 2003.
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That is all.....
Are you sure Adventurer is the only one that needs to move on??? |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Gopher wrote: |
Adventurer: it is boring. Three, four threads at a time telling extolling America's faults, errors, and shortcomings. You are not even original about it.
We already have R.S. Refugee and others constantly patrolling their favorite antiAmerican news and op-ed sources and reposting them here in what is clearly a propaganda campaign.
People's views on this forum are more or less fixed. You do not seem to have taken that into account.
Still, our conversations can be profitable and exciting, particularly when something comes up that attracts much commentary. This does not usually persuade anyone to change their views, however. Rather, I, for one, consider it extremely valuable because it allows us to test our analyses and arguments against what can be a hostile audience so that we can restate our positions more fairly and take objections into account. There are other benefits as well.
You dislike American conservatives and most of America's foreign policies post-1945. You dislike Israel. You are antiwar. W. Bush erred when he invaded Iraq and toppled Saddam. We get it. Can we move on now...? |
Gopher, are you all right? Do you need medication. It is just an article.
I just thought it was of interest and posted. Get over this flag waving.
I was not against deposing Saddam Hussein, by the way, if it was done in a wiser way. You make too many assumptions. Do you know the saying about assuming? We are in a global age. You are like those tired old people who of the British Empire who would be criticizing British policies in Ireland and calling the person anti-British. Relax! It is just an article! |
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