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mountain goat



Joined: 18 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: told I would get more money Reply with quote

I am currently working in a public school. I was told by the recruiter that I would get 2.2million won because I have 2 years english teaching experience. I came over with my husband who has a year and 6 months experience and a TFL certificate and he was told the same. We sent through all the original certificates as proof. We found out only after we had been given our first pay slip that we are both only being paid 2 million. The thing is the contract we signed didnt have the salary amount filled in, but when I had been told the salary I just presumed it would be filled in accordingly. Is this my fault for not making sure that the amount was actually on the contract? In any case I am furious!

I dont know how to raise this suject with the school, I have emailed the recruiter and am waiting for a reply. I would be very grateful on any advice on how I should proceed.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is 2 million before or after the deductions?

You should have cleared it up with the school first and I doubt that your recruiter will respond and can do much about it. The public school pay scale is almost set in stone: Leve 1, 2, & 3 each with specific requirement and qualifications.
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be furious with yourself.

Sign it when the details are in black and white.

A verbal agreement?What's that?What can you point to?

I'm not trying to be snarky but that's the reality.A recruiter will tell you anything.They'll even tell the school stuff(eg being able to work a couple of hours extra a week for no pay,which I told the school no way,I didn't sign to that)

However,you certainly should find a copy of the pay-scale for whatever programme you're with and get it adjusted if it applies to you.
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You silly-billy (goat).
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lover.asian



Joined: 30 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: told I would get more money Reply with quote

mountain goat wrote:
The thing is the contract we signed didnt have the salary amount filled in, but when I had been told the salary I just presumed it would be filled in accordingly.


So after reading all the posts here for more than a decade about hagwons screwing over foreign teachers, you signed a contract without a salary amount.

What do you want advice about? Obviously, you didn't learn anything from this board before you signed the contract. Amazing Shocked
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mountain goat



Joined: 18 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: told I would get more money Reply with quote

lover.asian wrote:
mountain goat wrote:
The thing is the contract we signed didnt have the salary amount filled in, but when I had been told the salary I just presumed it would be filled in accordingly.


So after reading all the posts here for more than a decade about hagwons screwing over foreign teachers, you signed a contract without a salary amount.

What do you want advice about? Obviously, you didn't learn anything from this board before you signed the contract. Amazing Shocked


I hadnt read this board before I came to Korea, I hadn't even heard of it.

I was just naive/stupid and thought that public schools would be different from hagwons and not screw you over money.

Firstly Am I entitled to more money? I have two years experience doing a similar thing in Japan (Jet Programme). Is there anything I can do now and if there is how should I go about raising the subject with my school.
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lover.asian



Joined: 30 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: Re: told I would get more money Reply with quote

mountain goat wrote:

I hadnt read this board before I came to Korea, I hadn't even heard of it.

I was just naive/stupid and thought that public schools would be different from hagwons and not screw you over money.



Fair enough.

Please post the school you work for and who your contract is with. Without knowing those things is difficult for people to give you proper advice.
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buymybook



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find the decision maker, contact them, don't let it go if you deserve it according to the rules.

Be polite, ask them why???
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mountain goat



Joined: 18 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a middle school but the contract is with gyeonngi-do board of education and not the actual school itself.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's in a rural area you should get 100,000 rural allowance on top of your pay, as well!
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mountain goat wrote:
its a middle school but the contract is with gyeonngi-do board of education and not the actual school itself.


With two years work experience and no teaching certificate/TEFL/TESL all you are entitled to is 2.0 milllion won/month. Your recruiter lied to you.

Plus 100k extra if you are living in a rural area.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^That's what I figured...the OP won't get any more than that.
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The recruiter has their fee....so,I guess that's that.
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Sody



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, no need to be hard on Mountain_Goat I can understand her situation because Koreans are so legalistic in all their dealings. In Canada, the verbal agreement would hold up in a court of law. I'm from Canada and I know this because I studied HR and employment law. Plus, in Canada most employers or recruiters would be able to speak English so there is less confusion.

Mountain_Goat, you weren't "stupid," or "naive," just unwise or ignorant of the way things are done in Korea and the public school system. In other countries, someone's word is a good enough, but not here in Korea. I work for GEPIK and the teachers simply follow the rules set forth by the Gyeonggi BoE. They are very legalistic in following contracts and very robot like in many ways. Let this be a lesson to you, nothing is completely bad if you learn from it Smile

Regarding your plight, if I were you I would bring this up with the school and the recruiter. Tell them you specifically agreed to the job based on a specific salary. You agreed to 2.2 mil and you also expect 100K rural bonus each month. Tell them you are upset about it. Tell them you aren't interested in working for people who are dishonest. Even if you don't get your agreed upon salary you will set the standard for future problems should they arise. You don't want to start this job feeling like you are in conflict, that is a bad way to start a relationship. BoL.

Sody
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sody wrote:
Guys, no need to be hard on Mountain_Goat I can understand her situation because Koreans are so legalistic in all their dealings.


Please clarify......SCREAMS FOR CLARIFICATION!!!!!
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