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seoulsista



Joined: 31 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Boss refuses to pay me what I'm due Reply with quote

Yet another hagwon tale of misery. I have three days left on my contract. My boss is trying to take out full taxes and pension despite the fact that I am only working a half month. She's also refusing to pay me for January 1st despite the fact that it clearly states in my contract that I am supposed to get paid for them. She also calculated my pay by taking my salary and dividing it by 31 (the number of days in January). I told her that was unacceptable but she won't budge.

I don't know what to do. She's trying to cheat me out of almost 500,00 won. WTF? I wanted to ask this women for a reference being that I have been a model employee. I don't complain. I don't get complaints. I've never called out sick. She gives me excellent reviews. But she still has to try to *beep* me out of 500 bucks?

I thought about going in and refusing to teach today but she still has this whole months pay to give me.

What would you do?
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many foreign teachers in your school? How many students? Depending, I would probably sit in the teachers office and refuse to teach.

"But you must teach!"

"But you mustn't rob me."
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prairieboy



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the pension, there's nothing you can do about it. It's Korean law that if you work any amount of time during the month the entire deduction has to be made. She must also make a matching payment. Same goes for NHIC health insurance.

But the taxes, unacceptable, it's a variable rate and the full deduction does not have to be made (whenever I've taken a vacation and not worked my full hours for the month I pay reduced taxes). But here again you might not be able to do much since you can file a tax return and get a refund of the overpayment...still it's a stupid thing for her to take the full amount of withholding tax on a reduced payment.

As for your pay, you must have an hours clause in your contract stating the minimum hours that must be worked to get your full monthly salary. There must also be some clause to calculate a day rate or hourly rate so you are paid for the time you work and those days you didn't work because of a national holiday or weekend are excluded. Refer to your contract first.

If all else fails then call the Labour Board ASAP. Dial 1350 and I believe #7 for an English speaker.

Hope all works out.

Cheers
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Ramones



Joined: 23 Oct 2006
Location: In Hell in my own mind...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to get all the FTs to band together at an English Mill I worked at in China.

I proposed we all called in sick for one or two days in a row to send a message to the idiots that ran the mill.

Bunch of spineless a**holes so afraid they might lose their jobs! 3 Canadians, 1 South Afriacan, I Brit.

I was disgusted that I had to work with these cowards - especially the Canadians.

Complain and complain but never had the ball*s to do a damn thing for themselves.
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seoulsista



Joined: 31 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand I have to pay some pension, health, taxes etc. But it's a percentage of your income. Why am I paying the full amount?

Can I call that number from a payphone? It's just four numbers? That's it? I already gave my phone away.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsista wrote:
I understand I have to pay some pension, health, taxes etc. But it's a percentage of your income. Why am I paying the full amount?

Can I call that number from a payphone? It's just four numbers? That's it? I already gave my phone away.


Yes, you can call it from any phone. It is a nationwide access number.
Press 7 for English.

ilovebdt
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my hagwon used the same method to calculate my pay (/31). It worked for me since they did it at the beginning and the end of my contract, I knew I was getting my full month; though in a very roundabout way.
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wire



Joined: 01 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you work for MK, seoulsista?
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to me if the boss doesn't want to pay for your work then...don't work!
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seoulsista



Joined: 31 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I spoke to the foreign manager at the head office of my hagwon and he spoke to my boss. It was all just a "misunderstanding." Rolling Eyes She's claiming that she wasn't refusing to pay but that she was waiting on clarification from head office. Not the story she gave me last night but now it seems she's going to pay me for the holiday and we are still working on the taxes/pension issue.

I don't want to name the company.

Thanks for eveyone who responded. I just hate the fact that she would try to not pay me for something that is so obviously black and white. It seems like Koreans don't mind burning bridges. This was the case with my last employer.

I always try to keep on the best possible footing with every employer. Why make someone walk away with a bad taste in their mouth? It just doesn't make sense.
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lover.asian



Joined: 30 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsista wrote:
I just hate the fact that she would try to not pay me for something that is so obviously black and white. It seems like Koreans don't mind burning bridges. This was the case with my last employer.


You've been in Korea for quite a while, why does this still surprise you?
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsista wrote:
Well, I spoke to the foreign manager at the head office of my hagwon and he spoke to my boss. It was all just a "misunderstanding." Rolling Eyes She's claiming that she wasn't refusing to pay but that she was waiting on clarification from head office. Not the story she gave me last night but now it seems she's going to pay me for the holiday and we are still working on the taxes/pension issue.

I don't want to name the company.

Thanks for eveyone who responded. I just hate the fact that she would try to not pay me for something that is so obviously black and white. It seems like Koreans don't mind burning bridges. This was the case with my last employer.

I always try to keep on the best possible footing with every employer. Why make someone walk away with a bad taste in their mouth? It just doesn't make sense.


Oh!!!!It was all just a misunderstanding...Oh,I see now!!I'm so sorry I didn't check with you sooner...

They tried something and didn't get away with it.They get to save face under that vaguest of explanations "a misunderstanding"
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gmat



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop arguing about the pension, this is a benefit to you (if employer is matching).

Also why are you making a big deal about the health insurance, you will be covered for the month of January and it's should be around 50,000 for the month. Not a big deal.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you do, always make it look like you know the Korean law, even if you're bluffing. This will help give you the upper hand and make them more fearful of losing face.

Yeah, it's ridiculous how they'll burn bridges and toss good will aside over a few hundred thousand won.

Have fun in SE Asia. The weather's great down here.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: Boss refuses to pay me what I'm due Reply with quote

seoulsista wrote:
What would you do?

Let her do it, get your reference letter and your certificate of employment" (while she can refuse to give the reference, she cannot refuse the C0E). Be nice, civil, and let her think she won.

Once you have your last pay and severance in hand. Go to Labor (or call 1350) and get your money back. You no longer work for her and you have everything you need from her. Time to F her up.
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