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tesseract
Joined: 26 May 2006
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 Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: TV tuner |
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| This might be a stupid question, but how is a tv tuner on my laptop going to be useful? I assume I don't need it if I will be downloading shows from the internet. Do I need the tv tuner if I am using a slingbox? |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: TV tuner |
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| tesseract wrote: |
| This might be a stupid question, but how is a tv tuner on my laptop going to be useful? I assume I don't need it if I will be downloading shows from the internet. Do I need the tv tuner if I am using a slingbox? |
There are no stupid questions but only stupid answers.
TV Tuner would allow you to watch TV on your PC. Input signal can come from cable, antenna, satelite receiver, etc....or whatever provides NTSC signal in Korean standard (I have noticed US/Korean channels are same).
Esentially it replaces a TV.
Some TV tuners allow you to also save video you are watching (say some show/movie) on your hard-disk and you can see it later. This is how for example Tivo works. Most TV tuners do not support that, but you need a video grabber card.
Downloading the movies from the internet means you have a video data (a file saved on your disc) and by using programs to read and play it you can display that on the screen and watch it. |
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mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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This is somewhat related.
I have an old Kasan TV card in my computer, and since the company went bust the drivers are avaliable at Sigma TV.
I downladed and installed the drivers and everything workd fine, but there was no sound. When I checked my device manger it said that the sound drivers are not installed, and that the device is working properly.
Having tried everything, I'm now at a loss as to how to get sound. Any suggestions would be helpful. |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| mishlert wrote: |
said that the sound drivers are not installed, and that the device is working properly.
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You mean sound drivers ARE installed properly. Because if your sentence is correct, then obviously: no drivers = no sound.
But what did you do so that you had to reinstall the card again? Did you change your computer or change the OS? Is everything else the same just sudenlly your card stopped working so you reinstalled the card or drivers? (and if so, what happened?)
I assume Windows XP?
More data..... |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:06 am Post subject: |
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I had a TV card in my system as well, but under WinXP, it never did work correctly. Seems I had a choice between having a picture or having sound. I opted for the bin. The drivers wouldn't load correctly and after a lot of work, it was easier to watch TV on the TV.
I think my chipset was a vanilla BT898 or 848 (BT=Brooktree) ; standard fare in TV decoders on PCI cards. Finding that information may be the go in finding the correct drivers.
FWIW, my card also ended up looking to Sigma for drivers, as well as btwincap (capture card drivers, which the TV tuner card can double as, albeit rather poorly back in the days of weak processors and low RAM - many dropped frames); there and some site called drivers.com or something. It just didn't work with XP.
Good luck. |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Well, it just happens I have a 17" CRT Samsung TV for sale. Ilsan/Seoul area. Cheap price and rarely used.
No driver problems 
Back to the thread:
It seems TV tuner cards got popular in late 90s & 2000-2001 and then nowadays they are not really that popular, hence no-name companies are making them with shitty drivers. Its a shame though....with large LCD monitors having a TV tuner would be nice. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| europe2seoul wrote: |
It seems TV tuner cards got popular in late 90s & 2000-2001 and then nowadays they are not really that popular, hence no-name companies are making them with *beep* drivers. Its a shame though....with large LCD monitors having a TV tuner would be nice. |
Many higher quality LCDs have a TV tuner built in these days. A very different animal from a tuner card. |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
Many higher quality LCDs have a TV tuner built in these days. A very different animal from a tuner card. |
Yes, that's a good option to take. I personally took Alphascan monitor www.alphascan.co.kr which has good price, picture quality and performance & technical specs of the panel. (no TV tuner in this one). Paid 320,000 won for 19" widescreen, audio in, DMI inputs, 800:1 contrast ratio, 5ms response time. It was June 2006.
Even my Korean friends (also computer people by profession) chose Alphascan after some research.
I took wide screen thinking its gonna be cool. It is cool but I need more vertical real estate than horizontal (text, coding), so 4:3 would be better. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Alright, you are making me take this off topic.
Coding? |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Alright, you are making me take this off topic.
Coding? |
Writing source code -> coding. In other words, developing software/applications. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| europe2seoul wrote: |
| Demophobe wrote: |
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| coding |
Alright, you are making me take this off topic.
Coding? |
Writing source code -> coding. In other words, developing software/applications. |
Yeah, thanks. Perhaps I should have been more direct.
What kind of applications? What language? Insert more usual questions here.... |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
| europe2seoul wrote: |
| Demophobe wrote: |
| europe2seoul wrote: |
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Alright, you are making me take this off topic.
Coding? |
Writing source code -> coding. In other words, developing software/applications. |
Yeah, thanks. Perhaps I should have been more direct.
What kind of applications? What language? Insert more usual questions here.... |
Professionally it is C++ under Solaris for industrial applications (read: non-existent GUI, backend stuff). Sometimes also C# & .NET apps also back-end stuff but GUI is easy to make. Nowadays personally, I am teaching myself development for Apple (Cocoa, Objective-C, what is out there, etc). And you? |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I know nothing.
You may appreciate this. (not sure how old you are)
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How to Shoot Yourself in the Foot
C: You shoot yourself in the foot.
C++: You accidentally create a dozen instances of yourself and shoot them all in the foot. Providing emergency medical assistance is impossible since you can't tell which are bitwise copies and which are just pointing at others and saying, "That's me, over there."
FORTRAN: You shoot yourself in each toe, iteratively, until you run out of toes, then you read in the next foot and repeat. If you run out of bullets, you continue with the attempts to shoot yourself anyways because you have no exception-handling capability.
Pascal: The compiler won't let you shoot yourself in the foot.
Ada: After correctly packing your foot, you attempt to concurrently load the gun, pull the trigger, scream, and shoot yourself in the foot. When you try, however, you discover you can't because your foot is of the wrong type.
COBOL: Using a COLT 45 HANDGUN, AIM gun at LEG.FOOT, THEN place ARM.HAND.FINGER on HANDGUN.TRIGGER and SQUEEZE. THEN return HANDGUN to HOLSTER. CHECK whether shoelace needs to be re-tied.
LISP: You shoot yourself in the appendage which holds the gun with which you shoot yourself in the appendage which holds the gun with which you shoot yourself in the appendage which holds the gun with which you shoot yourself in the appendage which holds the gun with which you shoot yourself in the appendage which holds the gun with which you shoot yourself in the appendage which holds...
FORTH: Foot in yourself shoot.
Prolog: You tell your program that you want to be shot in the foot. The program figures out how to do it, but the syntax doesn't permit it to explain it to you.
BASIC: Shoot yourself in the foot with a water pistol. On large systems, continue until entire lower body is waterlogged.
Visual Basic: You'll really only _appear_ to have shot yourself in the foot, but you'll have had so much fun doing it that you won't care.
HyperTalk: Put the first bullet of gun into foot left of leg of you. Answer the result.
Motif: You spend days writing a UIL description of your foot, the bullet, its trajectory, and the intricate scrollwork on the ivory handles of the gun. When you finally get around to pulling the trigger, the gun jams.
APL: You shoot yourself in the foot, then spend all day figuring out how to do it in fewer characters.
SNOBOL: If you succeed, shoot yourself in the left foot. If you fail, shoot yourself in the right foot.
Unix:
% ls
foot.c foot.h foot.o toe.c toe.o
% rm * .o
rm:.o no such file or directory
% ls
%
Concurrent Euclid: You shoot yourself in somebody else's foot.
370 JCL: You send your foot down to MIS and include a 400-page document explaining exactly how you want it to be shot. Three years later, your foot comes back deep-fried.
Paradox: Not only can you shoot yourself in the foot, your users can, too.
Revelation: You're sure you're going to be able to shoot yourself in the foot, just as soon as you figure out what all these nifty little bullet-thingies are for.
Assembler: You try to shoot yourself in the foot, only to discover you must first invent the gun, the bullet, the trigger, and your foot.
Modula2: After realizing that you can't actually accomplish anything in this language, you shoot yourself in the head.
VMS:
$ MOUNT/DENSITY=.45/LABEL=BULLET/MESSAGE="BYE" BULLET::BULLET$GUN SYS$BULLET
$ SET GUN/LOAD/SAFETY=OFF/SIGHT=NONE/HAND=LEFT/CHAMBER=1/ACTION=AUTOMATIC/LOG/ALL/FULL SYS$GUN_3$DUA3:[000000]GUN.GNU
$ SHOOT/LOG/AUTO SYS$GUN SYS$SYSTEM:[FOOT]FOOT.FOOT
%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image GUN-CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file $3$DUA240:[GUN]GUN.EXE;1-IMGACT-F-NOTNATIVE, image is not an OpenVMS Alpha AXP image
oh well, almost.. |
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