Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Sergeant in trouble for posing in Playboy
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Sergeant in trouble for posing in Playboy Reply with quote



Sergeant in trouble for Playboy photos
Air Force blasts her steamy pictorial as �not representative� of service

MSNBC.com

Updated: 10:47 a.m. ET Jan. 12, 2007
SAN ANTONIO - "Drop and give me 20!" is something you might hear Air Force Staff Sgt. Michelle Manhart yell to airmen trainees at Lackland Air Force Base. Drop her trousers is what Manhart did for Playboy magazine, and now it's landed her in trouble with the military.

"Of what I did, nothing is wrong so I didn't anticipate anything, of course," Manhart said Thursday of the pictorial. "I didn't do anything wrong so I didn't think it would be a major issue."

In a six-page spread in February's issue, hitting newsstands this week, Manhart is photographed in uniform yelling and holding weapons under the headline "Tough Love." The following pages show her partially clothed wearing her dog tags while working out, as well as completely nude.

Manhart, 30, who is married with two children, has been relieved of her duties pending an investigation, according to Lackland AFB spokesman Oscar Balladares.

"This staff sergeant's alleged action does not meet the high standards we expect of our airmen, nor does it comply with the Air Force's core values of integrity, service before self, and excellence in all we do. It is not representative of the many thousands of outstanding airmen who serve in the U.S. Air Force today," Balladares said, reading a statement.

Experienced model
Manhart has modeled since she was younger and joined the Air Force in 1994, spending time in Kuwait in 2002. The California native said she hopes the Playboy photo shoot will pave a way into an acting or modeling career.

The pictorial's accompanying article mentioned the possibility of trouble for the brunette drill instructor. But when asked in the article whether it might get her in "hot water with Uncle Sam," Manhart replied: "I've been serving for 13 years, fighting for everyone's rights. Why wouldn't I be able to stand up for my own rights and participate in the freedoms that make this country what it is?"

Manhart said she didn't see the magazine as an escape from the military. She also said she is completely committed to her job.

"I've proven myself. ... They picked me to train our future airmen of the world," she said. "They picked me to train these individuals so if they elect to say I don't have (integrity), then that's their opinion."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16585140/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
the Air Force's core values of integrity, service before self,



The Air Force has a point. While I see nothing at all wrong with nudity or sex, appearing nude in a magazine for men to leer at is not putting service before self.

However, relieving her of duty is maybe not the best way to deal with it. A quiet reprimand would have sufficed and a more public 'boys will be boys' attitude would have been better. Doing what they did only serves to highlight the incident.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they just wanted to change the type of salute she was getting?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if the military is so offended by Playboy magazine, do they ban their soldiers from reading it on base?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We teach young men to drop Napalm on people... but they can't write F*UCK on their airplanes because.... because it's obscene....

-Col Kurtz from Apocalypse Now
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In military, sexual harrassment is serious offense which is being strictly enforced as you sometimes see on AFN commercials.

If you just look at a female soldier wrong, they can bust you or ruin your career. Just imagine how many of her subordinate airmen/women will see her naked in the playboy mag.

I suppose you can say that you can do what ever in civilian life but this sort of thing will only make problems within her unit where she's a Non Com. Her subordinates may think of her differently with disrespect but not as a leader.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the Other Hand: we do not really consider the Air Force "the military."

"Civilians in uniform," dude. They order their eggs anyway they want them, and they have busers to clean up after them in their mess halls.

That ain't the military that I know.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
On the Other Hand: we do not really consider the Air Force "the military."

"Civilians in uniform," dude. They order their eggs anyway they want them, and they have busers to clean up after them in their mess halls.

That ain't the military that I know.


Yeah, that's true. You can say they're in limbo between civ-mil. Laughing

And they get to live in 5 star hotels while all the branches of service live in hoochies.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
On the Other Hand: we do not really consider the Air Force "the military."

"Civilians in uniform," dude. They order their eggs anyway they want them, and they have busers to clean up after them in their mess halls.

That ain't the military that I know.



HHOOOOOO-AHHHHHH
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THAT was the hottest military chick Playboy could find?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Nowhere Man



Joined: 08 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

It was her own subtle way of endorsing the dont ask/don't tell policy, which I understand may be endangered.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't GIs mostly sit around watching videos of women pissing on each other? This is kid stuff.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally I wouldn't side with the military, but I have to wonder how stupid she is not to see this coming. If your in the military, there are pretty strict rules you have to follow (I've never been in the military and I know this). Based on what I've heard, she's facing a court martial for what she's done and I have to agree she should get some kind of punishment.

But a good point is made about how readily available Playboy is made on military bases. Certainly it is just a magazine, but some feel it degrades women (I don't have a strong opinon either way) and therefore can lead to problems.

Gamecock, I agree, she's not THAT hot.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
awalk2remember



Joined: 29 Dec 2006
Location: Pusan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After much thought on this subject (ok...maybe 3 minutes) I have concluded that:

Her motivation to pose in Playboy was to get some much needed attention...

No, I don't mean THAT kind of attention.

I mean from the publicity that it is receiving.
Even on Dave's we are posting our comments about it.

She would have known that her actions would cause "quite a stir" ...

Therefore, I conclude that she did it to bring herself into the media. Just like all the movie stars, singers, etc. that pose in this highly popular magazine. They do it for publicity.
She not so much wanted to bare all for people to see because you can easily do that on the internet.

But putting yourself in print in a popular magazine, well thats just a cry for attention...

Maybe she wants out of services ???

just a thought....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having had some time to think, it occurs to me this is SO last century. Shouldn't the issue today be about some hot Marine stud struting his stuff in Playgirl? It could give a whole new twist to the word 'Semper'.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Page 1 of 4

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International