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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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I'd say that lightbulb and the telephone are good for a start.
The phonograph too, but then I've heard that mp3s cae from a german. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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[quote="ChopChaeJoe"]I'd say that lightbulb and the telephone are good for a start.The phonograph too, but then I've heard that mp3s cae from a german.[/quote]
Both invented by Canadians. |
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twg
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Bell was a Scotsman, and Swan was British.
But Bell lived in Canada, and it was two Canucks who first patented the light. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:12 am Post subject: |
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But, according to wikipedia, the Russian Alexander Nikolayevich Lodygin invented a lightbulb at the same time.
Anyway, no one wins credit for them. |
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Cerebroden
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yeah but who ever gives credit to canadians for anything other than hockey?  |
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stevemcgarrett
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| I chuckle to myself 'Another weak analogy from the son of god'. |
ED209: It's one thing to scoff at Christian belief and quite another to mock it. I pity you (almost). Can't be easy living as an encrusted cynic. But you've found a good home among the many atheists who inhabit this forum.
twg:
Canadians inventing the light and telephone? You're jesting, right? Both American inventions. Must be smoking too much of that bad Toronto weed. Hey dere, let's have a Canada-centric curriculum in our schools.
But you can take credit for hip-hop if you wish, since it's a load of crap.
blase:
Nothing like a gross generalization, imagining that all Bush supporters are fundamentalists. And by the way, I've known atheists who were as narrow-minded as the worst fundamentalist, so where does that put you? |
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DaeguKid
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Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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[quote="stevemcgarrett"]
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Canadians inventing the light and telephone? You're jesting, right? Both American inventions. Must be smoking too much of that bad Toronto weed. Hey dere, let's have a Canada-centric curriculum in our schools.
Dude the first phone call in the world was made from Paris, Ontario to Brantford Ontario...its true...no one is pulling your leg on that one. Alexander Graham Bell was a Scotsman, but his invention was created in Canada.
And by the way....that whole "God Bless America" stuff....my take is that at least there is someone out there who will do it. Do Americans think they will go to heaven because they are American? Something to think about.
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shifter2009
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Location: wisconsin
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| We had this discussion before about Bell. Was originally scotish, moved to Canada, then to the states and became a US citizen. Anyways, Bell invented it after an Italian American guy named Meucci already had a patent in on the idea but got himself hosed out of it with some legal wrangling. So basically this scotish guy went to Canada, invented the phone second but since he wasn't Italian he got the patent and got filthy rich. Then moved to America, home of the filthy rich and became a U.S. citizen becuase thats how rich people roll. So I say we get him based on were a nation of immigrants so the guys that show up who invent cool stuff are instantly ours. Alexander Graham Bell was a great American. Feel free to nit pick this shortened history with hours or minutes of internet research. I know someone will and will call me some clever names in the process as my national pride clearly rides on this. |
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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Bell was honored on the television programs the 100 Greatest Britons (2002), the top-ten Greatest Canadians (2004), and the 100 Greatest Americans (2005). The nominees and rankings for these programs were determined by popular vote. Bell was the only person to be on more than one of the programs.
Thats on the wiki page for him too. Kinda amusing and points out how stupid the whole arguement is as well. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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twg:
Canadians inventing the light and telephone? You're jesting, right? Both American inventions. Must be smoking too much of that bad Toronto weed. Hey dere, let's have a Canada-centric curriculum in our schools.
But you can take credit for hip-hop if you wish, since it's a load of crap. |
Speaking of school, you appear to have failed reading 101 since I pointed out that the inventors of those things were not Canadians.
I'll await your apology. But I probably won't hold my breath while I do it. |
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DaeguKid
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| shifter2009 wrote: |
Bell was honored on the television programs the 100 Greatest Britons (2002), the top-ten Greatest Canadians (2004), and the 100 Greatest Americans (2005). The nominees and rankings for these programs were determined by popular vote. Bell was the only person to be on more than one of the programs.
Thats on the wiki page for him too. Kinda amusing and points out how stupid the whole arguement is as well. |
Hey Shifter...would it be fair to say he is a man of the world!? I think it is best to leave it at that and say cheers....but what do you think Bell would have said? I thinking he would have called himself a proud Scotsman deep down through and through. Carnegie was born in Scotland as well, but made his money in the US, but deep down Andrew saw himself as Scottish and America is where he lived...He returned to Scotland at the age of 59 and built himself a nice retirement castle there, Skibo Castle. If its sounds familar it is where Madonna and Guy had their wedding reception. Point is is that Andrew went back to his homeland. If he did not care about it, he would have not returned.
You have to put it this was as well, if you have lived in Korea for many years and invented something here, would it be fair for Korea to claim you and your invention as Korean? Doubtful...Something to think about.
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| shifter2009 wrote: |
Bell was honored on the television programs the 100 Greatest Britons (2002), the top-ten Greatest Canadians (2004), and the 100 Greatest Americans (2005). The nominees and rankings for these programs were determined by popular vote. Bell was the only person to be on more than one of the programs.
Thats on the wiki page for him too. Kinda amusing and points out how stupid the whole arguement is as well. |
Hey Shifter...would it be fair to say he is a man of the world!? I think it is best to leave it at that and say cheers....but what do you think Bell would have said? I thinking he would have called himself a proud Scotsman deep down through and through. Carnegie was born in Scotland as well, but made his money in the US, but deep down Andrew saw himself as Scottish and America is where he lived...He returned to Scotland at the age of 59 and built himself a nice retirement castle there, Skibo Castle. If its sounds familar it is where Madonna and Guy had their wedding reception. Point is is that Andrew went back to his homeland. If he did not care about it, he would have not returned.
You have to put it this was as well, if you have lived in Korea for many years and invented something here, would it be fair for Korea to claim you and your invention as Korean? Doubtful...Something to think about.
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I dunno, I suppose America around that time would be an interesting case seeing that such a large chunck of its population was immigrants or only a generation or two from being immigrants. I do wonder how most viewed their national identity. Something to research if I had an english libary handy. |
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Zoobot
Joined: 25 Aug 2006
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
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Funnily enough, basketball was invented by a Canadian living in Springfield Massachusetts. I think he returned to Canada later in life, not that that's particularly relevant.
Canada does have (01) as its country code (because it was in Canada that the first phone call was made).
I think Canada, USA, and Scotland all have a valid claim on Mr. Bell |
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stevemcgarrett
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Zoobot:
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| Funnily enough, basketball was invented by a Canadian living in Springfield Massachusetts. I think he returned to Canada later in life, not that that's particularly relevant. |
Nice try: He was born Canadian, and invented the game while in the U.S. at the behest of athletic department officials who wanted a practical indoor game.
He became a naturalized American citizen later in life and died in the U.S. He considered himself an American.
As for the telephone:
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| "It is important to note that there is no one "inventor of the telephone", though Alexander Graham Bell is often credited as such. The modern telephone is the result of work done by many people, all worthy of recognition of their contributions to the field. Bell was merely the first to patent the telephone, an "apparatus for transmitting vocal or other sounds telegraphically". |
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And the OO1 country code, it was assigned to North America by the CCITT in the early 1960s at its initial convention. It did NOT originate in Canada.
Must be a lot of insecure Canucks inhabiting this forum. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| I chuckle to myself 'Another weak analogy from the son of god'. |
ED209: It's one thing to scoff at Christian belief and quite another to mock it. I pity you (almost). Can't be easy living as an encrusted cynic. But you've found a good home among the many atheists who inhabit this forum.
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So I won't put you down for a camel shake then. Let's not forget what Aristotle and Nietzsche said about pity.
Anyway, what we need here is a kinda of 'What did the Americans ever do for us?' Adam Hart Davis kinda program. |
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