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WHEN, OH WHEN, WILL DONALD TRUMP GET HIS COMEUPPANCE?
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jinju

Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject:

But the thing is, Trump is right. Rice was a terrible Security Advisor. Hell it was under her as Security Advisor that 9/11 happened. And from what we know, she was guilty of AT THE VERY LEAST ignoring the threat that was Al Qaida. So, 9/11 happened, the worst security failure in the history of the US and what happened to the Security Advisor? Fired? Nah, she got a promotion! Now, lets look at the list of successes she has had in her new role........... anyone?

thepeel

Joined: 08 Aug 2004

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject:

jinju wrote:

But the thing is, Trump is right. Rice was a terrible Security Advisor. Hell it was under her as Security Advisor that 9/11 happened. And from what we know, she was guilty of AT THE VERY LEAST ignoring the threat that was Al Qaida. So, 9/11 happened, the worst security failure in the history of the US and what happened to the Security Advisor? Fired? Nah, she got a promotion! Now, lets look at the list of successes she has had in her new role...........

anyone?

And this is it, isn't it? The Bush Clan's biggest problem isn't their ideology, corruption or secret Jewish plans (though the first two do suck ass). Their biggest problem is that they are fully incompetent and unable to handle the most menial tasks.

The whole unelected part of the administration should have been fired after 9/11. That kind of attack cannot pass without heads rolling.

dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject:

Condaweezie is an affirmative action hire legacy from Bush's daddy. She is smarter than Bush, but still incompetent.

Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:55 am Post subject: yes

I guess with this 'educated' man around, we need an English to English dictionary.

Pligganease wrote:

ddeubel wrote:

Roch, so to continue....... despite your examples, might I infer that you equate success as "being without money" or what exactly is it that you equate with success??? Being able to apply for a doctorate? I don't agree, that would undoubtably make me a success and since I am much different than "catch the wave" McGarrett, all I can assume is that he cannot be a success because he would be the same as I, or if different than not a success.

What the hell are you talking about here? Do you even know? Seriously, is English your first language?

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:52 am Post subject:

Pligganease wrote:

ddeubel wrote:

What the hell are you talking about here? Do you even know? Seriously, is English your first language?

Sigh. It's perfectly clear what he is saying. If you heard those words spoken instead of written, you'd have no problem with their delivery, and your subsequent comprehension of them. People don't speak in perfect grammatical sentences. DD writes as if he's speaking. Is there a law against it?

I grow increasingly tired of this idea that the posts on this litle forum should be written in some kind of accademic standard of English. Who really cares?

ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:01 am Post subject:

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ddeubel wrote:
Roch, so to continue....... despite your examples, might I infer that you equate success as "being without money" or what exactly is it that you equate with success??? Being able to apply for a doctorate? I don't agree, that would undoubtably make me a success and since I am much different than "catch the wave" McGarrett, all I can assume is that he cannot be a success because he would be the same as I, or if different than not a success.

What the hell are you talking about here? Do you even know? Seriously, is English your first language?

Just to clear some things up. I do not seek "clarity of arguement". I seek change and one way to foster that, is to speak from the heart, as the heart. Clear headed and alive as thought and not cooked gruel.

The best way to be alive, is to think. The only way we can think, is to confront language as it is, to work in thought, on language and not deafly just let the words fall into the waste bin of our minds, so much heard before, so accepted, so automized.

Clear?

Not at all, I hope. Anyways, think about it. Or as Wittgenstein quipped when asked the same by people such as the above,

"Philosophy is language idling." I find that patronizing. I don't want to be, nor like others do I want to be a language nazi.

DD

wannago

Joined: 16 Apr 2004

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject:

Big_Bird wrote:

Pligganease wrote:

ddeubel wrote:

What the hell are you talking about here? Do you even know? Seriously, is English your first language?

But he's not speaking, he's WRITING. I grow increasingly tired of people that babble about nothing as you often do BB but, you are correct, there is no law against it. There is also no law against complaining about it either. If you want people to understand what you're writing, then you ought to write in some form of language that can be understood and not in some mumbling gibberish.
Me liberal W. bad, Iraq hellhole, W. bad, U.S. cause of every bad thing, Islam not problem, many arab friends.

cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: What goes around...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIbbA75UVB0&mode=related&search= cbc

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject:

wannago wrote:

Big_Bird wrote:

Pligganease wrote:

ddeubel wrote:

What the hell are you talking about here? Do you even know? Seriously, is English your first language?

But he's not speaking, he's WRITING.

He's not writing for an accademic journal. He's communicating his ideas on an internet forum. There are no rules for this genre of writing. If your mind is so inflexible that you can not decipher his meaning, then that is your own problem. But you can, and you're just being petty.

ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:18 am Post subject:

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But he's not speaking, he's WRITING

Well, you like all your ts crossed and izzzzz dotted donut you? But sorry, there is a hole in everything. Actually I am doing both. Speaking and writing. Just like you should do both -- think and read. Seems you are only proficient at the later. But I won't go into a discussion on this, it would be long and boring and without much substance.

Suffice to say, it takes lots of confidence to write as you would think. To jump over the wreckage of formality. That said, I am a big fan of Strunk Jr. and his Elements. Grew up on it, very wholesome bread it is. But as he points out so well, you can break the rules. But first you must master all them. (he stole this from the Chinese, this adage.).

I feel secure in my writing ability. I wouldn't have been gainfully employed for a number of years editing a Business magazine if I didn't know the "rules" nor how to apply them. I've also done lots of other kinds of writing and published my share of things.

I suggest that if you'd like a good example of how writing style, confidence and thought blend -- i'd recommend Adorno. Tough read but worth it and might change your pitapatter consciousness. You might also learn something about fascism, literary and non-literary.

DD

stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:53 am Post subject:

dogbert: Yeah, right. She is a former provost of Stanford University and an expert in Soviet history, among other things. I'm sure she could debate circles around you, pooch. But stick to ad hominem attacks; that's your forte.

jinju

Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:56 am Post subject:

stevemcgarrett wrote:

dogbert:

Yeah, right. She is a former provost of Stanford University and an expert in Soviet history, among other things. I'm sure she could debate circles around you, pooch.

But stick to ad hominem attacks; that's your forte.

so what? the USSR is DEAD. This is 2007 not 1987. She hasnt got a clue about the modern world. She is atleast 20 years past her expiration date. Stick a fork in this ugly idiot, shes done.

9/11 happened on her watch as security advisor. Partly because she totally ignored warnings from within the administration itself.

In her current role she hasnt achieved ANYTHING.

jinju

Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:00 am Post subject:

did I also menton she's uglier than Rumsfeld?

bucheon bum

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject:

jinju wrote:

stevemcgarrett wrote:

Well I think 9/11 was going to happen even if she was on top of her game and was very competant. 9/11 was due to many people and institutions failing at their tasks.

That being said, I agree with your general argument. Her expertise is an anachorism, and she was not the right choice for being the head of the NSC. That being said, she isn't a bad choice for Sec. of State simply due to her knowledge of nation-states, which is what her department is about- not terrorists and non-state entities.

jinju

Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject:

bucheon bum wrote:

jinju wrote:

stevemcgarrett wrote:

Maybe 9/11 was going to happen. Who knows. In sports, coaches, GMs or presidents who fail, even if it isnt their fault, are sacked. She was promoted for what in basketball would be a sweep in a playoff series, each game being lost by a margin of 50+ points. She failed big time. The fact is that even if it was going to happen, she blew off the possibility thereby creating an atmosphere of "who gives a shit about some peasant ina cave anyway". More vigilience, and who knows what would have happened.

She is UNQUALIFIED. Theres a lot of talk about B.A.s in basketweaving not being qualified to teach. Well, atleast all we do here is teach. This failure has a whole lotta responsibility on her shoulders and her qualification is in something that doesnt even exist anymore.

Im still waiting for someone to point out her accomplishments in her current position as Sec of State.

There are 2 reasons she still has a job.

1. Shes a woman
2. She's black

ok, there are three

3. Her boss is a moron who hires incompetent idiots a la Rumsfeld.

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