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Backlash Against R.O.K. in the U.S.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but there is certainly a train of thought on capitol hill that is now beginning to question the US commitment to the ROK


The newspaper articles I mentioned are in reference to that, not the general public. I think the general American public (outside a few pockets) are pretty unaware of Korea, as has been pointed out.
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slow_life



Joined: 29 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another "train of thought" found in the U.S. military is one of complete frustration and anger that we have about 29,000 troops tied up in SK that should be available for use in Iraq........we need them........and they can gain valuable combat experience. This is becoming a major issue..........ask army officers and see what they say, if they can.
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
Roch wrote:
PimpofKorea wrote:
Most americans I know...never even think about Korea...most don't even know where it is. I actually wish Americans knew how a lot of Koreans felt about them....Let's just say a lot of Koreans would be on the welfare line.....receiving their kimchi and ramyeon vouchers....


As an aside: Most of the rich kids or the kids with parents with enough bank and balls to do it, have done a Tourist Visa stint in a so-called English Speaking Nation such as New Zealand, Canada, Australia, etc., wherein the kids received, on the taxpayers' dime/nickel, free education in English for 'X' number of months just because Mom and Dad decided to use the Host Nation's taxpayers for a proverbial free ride for their Min Hee, Jin Soo, et-al.
And the Anti-English Teacher Crowd here dares suggest that we are, in the main, emblematic of all that is wrong with the West or, minimum, not acceptable in their eyes.


Free my arse...the school boards host foreign students because they can charge them a ton of money, and in a lot of cases, give them virtually no esl assistance. A lot of school boards that are struggling with shrinking enrollments have targeted foreign students to bolster numbers of pupils, and to get a huge windfall of cash. It ain't charity.


This really depends on the country or the province/state of said country. However the two posters are clearly talking about a different issue. 1) school boards in Canada and elsewhere recruiting foreign students who pay high tutition.
2) Foreign students that go somewhere to live on a tourist visa and enroll in public education. I believe the latter is most common in the states because everyone knows that illegal Mexicans have been doing this for years.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Backlash Against R.O.K. in the U.S. Reply with quote

Roch wrote:
For instance, Panama City, Forida has a bunch of people who've been following the corrupt regimes over the decades treat crimes against foreigners as no big deal. Roh's stint in Cheong Wah Dae has been viewed as an insult to the veterans of this nation and those who were fortunate enough to escape from North Korea.

What are the chances of the R.O.K.'s status quo eventually causing a loss of respect from Britain, Australia, New Zealand, and other states dedicated to liberal democracy and human rights?

Just curious.

R


South Korea partially became a liberal democracy when they stopped having corrupt military governments. Countries dedicated to liberal democracy and human rights should see that things are going in the right direction. Most of the problems in this country are leftovers from decades of military rule, giant illegal prisons, and paranoid anti-communism.
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This just seems like wishful thinking on the part of somebody who's fed up with Korea. Sorry, there's no simmering backlash.

This reminds me of people who think about writing their Congressman and calling a Human Rights organization because their hogwan stiffed them. A completely overblown assessment of how important their personal grievances are.
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
There were the mass candle-light vigils around the country. 60 Minutes did an interview with General Campbell (??) and showed a clip of a flag being burned and asked him how he felt when he saw scenes like that. While giving his answer, tears streamed down his face.



That was the best soap drama I've seen a long time.
Do you know why American couldn't win in Vietnam and why can't win in Iraq ? Because your country have that kind generals who is so sentimental and weak , Korean generals will never show tears in front TV.

My uncle was a korean marine office and fought side by side with American soldiers in Vietnam, 2 months after he arrive in Vietnam, he wrote letters to his family, he said " there is no way America can win in Vietnam", he said the mentality of American soldiers are terrible, basically they don't want to fight, they are not soldiers "

My uncle voluntary went Vietnam and years later retired as a general.


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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MissSeoul wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
There were the mass candle-light vigils around the country. 60 Minutes did an interview with General Campbell (??) and showed a clip of a flag being burned and asked him how he felt when he saw scenes like that. While giving his answer, tears streamed down his face.


That was the best soap drama I've seen a long time.
Do you know why American couldn't win in Vietnam and why can't win in Iraq ? Because your country have that kind generals who is so sentimental and weak , Korean generals will never show tears in front TV.

Do you go by "Baduk" in the Marmot's comments section?
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you know why American couldn't win in Vietnam and why can't win in Iraq ? Because your country have that kind generals who is so sentimental and weak , Korean generals will never show tears in front TV.

My uncle was a korean marine office and fought side by side with American soldiers in Vietnam, 2 months after he arrive in Vietnam, he wrote letters to his family, he said " there is no way America can win in Vietnam", he said the mentality of American soldiers is terrible, basically they don't want to fight, they are kids, not soldiers "


Yeah, Korean generals have alot of experience at winning...
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
This just seems like wishful thinking on the part of somebody who's fed up with Korea. Sorry, there's no simmering backlash.

This reminds me of people who think about writing their Congressman and calling a Human Rights organization because their hogwan stiffed them. A completely overblown assessment of how important their personal grievances are.


You're quickly becoming my favourite poster on here.

I'm sure more Americans are more angry about dog-eating than ungrateful South Korean peace and civil rights activists.
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
MissSeoul wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
There were the mass candle-light vigils around the country. 60 Minutes did an interview with General Campbell (??) and showed a clip of a flag being burned and asked him how he felt when he saw scenes like that. While giving his answer, tears streamed down his face.


That was the best soap drama I've seen a long time.
Do you know why American couldn't win in Vietnam and why can't win in Iraq ? Because your country have that kind generals who is so sentimental and weak , Korean generals will never show tears in front TV.

Do you go by "Baduk" in the Marmot's comments section?



No, I am not Baduk, I am Miss Seoul Laughing
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babtangee



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Gamecock"]
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Yeah, Korean generals have alot of experience at winning...


Ha ha!
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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="babtangee"]
Gamecock wrote:
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Yeah, Korean generals have alot of experience at winning...


Ha ha!


I thought that was a good one as well. So, that's how they won the Korean War all by themselves!
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What backlash?? there is none.
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Pligganease



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

South Korea is just like Canada: identifiable only through its neighbors.
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4 months left



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pligganease wrote:
South Korea is just like Canada: identifiable only through its neighbors.
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Ya, Greenland.
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