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On the other hand
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:19 am Post subject: (op) Three cheers for anti-Americanism |
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You know, I can really understand why people in western Europe and the UK, world-renowned for their generosity and compassion toward brown folk both at home and in the colonies, would be simply aghast at the mistreatment of those same brown folk by the mouth-breathing, blood-soaked ignoramuses inhabiting the transcontinental trailer park accross the Atlantic.
And please. My tender sensibilities will tolerate no more slanderous revisionism along the lines of "well, you know, the British and the French helped create the current mess by carving up the Ottoman remnants in a most cynical fashion after WWI." Such malicious nonsense. I find it most unlikely that the British, having in the previous century completed a selfless humanitarian endeavour aimed at bringing to the Chinese people the heavenly nectar that inspired Wordsworth to his poetic heights, would then so heartlessly turn around and do something that fell anywhere short of being in the best interests of colored people. Oops, I mean people of color.
I think anyone who hasn't been brainwashed by a steady diet of Fox News and Chuck Norris would realize that the British and the French had only the best interests of the brown people at heart, and that the sordid details of the post-war partition were in fact implanted in the brains of Lloyd George and Clemencau by Woodrow Wilson, possibly using the very same masonic mind control techniques that the evil genius Bush was later to use on Tony Blair and the helpless British electorate. |
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Pligganease

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Too true, friend. Too true.
As an American, I must say that the general feeling of disgust toward AmeriKa and its populace is well deserved. It pains me to see the brave people of France and other countries taking any share of the balme that is deservedly and completely AmeriKan. i can only attest that to the idiotic AmeriKan press, which loves to blame others while portraying Dumbya as an angel. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Well what did they expect after displacing millions of Palestinians and setting up a country that has no right to exist? I would be anti-Saudi Arabia if they set up a new state right in the middle of Kentucky just for Arabs. And not to mention that a stable country like Iran isn't permitted to have nuclear weapons when they turn a blind eye to Pakistan. The longer they continue the lie the less credibility they'll have on the world stage. Lucky we have the rise of China to balance things out. |
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On the other hand
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:37 am Post subject: |
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So, Plig. Thought you could pull a fast one on us, eh?
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As an American, I must say that the general feeling of disgust toward AmeriKa and its populace is well deserved. It pains me to see the brave people of France and other countries taking any share of the balme that is deservedly and completely AmeriKan. i can only attest that to the idiotic AmeriKan press, which loves to blame others while portraying Dumbya as an angel.
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The correct spelling is AmeriKKKa, you mad-dog apologist. |
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Adventurer

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Well what did they expect after displacing millions of Palestinians and setting up a country that has no right to exist? I would be anti-Saudi Arabia if they set up a new state right in the middle of Kentucky just for Arabs. And not to mention that a stable country like Iran isn't permitted to have nuclear weapons when they turn a blind eye to Pakistan. The longer they continue the lie the less credibility they'll have on the world stage. Lucky we have the rise of China to balance things out. |
Who displaced millions of Palestinians? America didn't do that. That was more of the work of Great Britain and the General Assemby which was largely dominated by former colonial powers and the U.S. and they influenced the vote. You can't pin that one on the U.S.
However, the U.S. government did ignore for so long the expelling of Palestinian farmers to build settlements. I think it is hypocritical to go after people funding Islamic terrorist organizations such as Hamas and not going after those funding settlements in the U.S.
As far as the nuclear issue, Pakistan has it because India has it. It didn't acquire because Israel has it. There is a suspicion Iran wants it to compete with Israel. Frankly, I think the whole region should engage in disarmament. No one should have nukes in the region including Israel. I hope to see peace in the region.
I am not sure the rise of China balances things out. You are assuming they will have some of the same positive spin on things as the bi-polar world had with the Soviet Union and the U.S. There was a certain perceived stability that is gone. Also, Russia's weakness has been overplayed by the media for so long. |
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On the other hand
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Who displaced millions of Palestinians? America didn't do that. That was more of the work of Great Britain and the General Assemby which was largely dominated by former colonial powers and the U.S. and they influenced the vote. You can't pin that one on the U.S.
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I think you might have missed the general theme of the "op" threads. |
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Adventurer

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: Re: (op) Three cheers for anti-Americanism |
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On the other hand wrote: |
You know, I can really understand why people in western Europe and the UK, world-renowned for their generosity and compassion toward brown folk both at home and in the colonies, would be simply aghast at the mistreatment of those same brown folk by the mouth-breathing, blood-soaked ignoramuses inhabiting the transcontinental trailer park accross the Atlantic.
And please. My tender sensibilities will tolerate no more slanderous revisionism along the lines of "well, you know, the British and the French helped create the current mess by carving up the Ottoman remnants in a most cynical fashion after WWI." Such malicious nonsense. I find it most unlikely that the British, having in the previous century completed a selfless humanitarian endeavour aimed at bringing to the Chinese people the heavenly nectar that inspired Wordsworth to his poetic heights, would then so heartlessly turn around and do something that fell anywhere short of being in the best interests of colored people. Oops, I mean people of color.
I think anyone who hasn't been brainwashed by a steady diet of Fox News and Chuck Norris would realize that the British and the French had only the best interests of the brown people at heart, and that the sordid details of the post-war partition were in fact implanted in the brains of Lloyd George and Clemencau by Woodrow Wilson, possibly using the very same masonic mind control techniques that the evil genius Bush was later to use on Tony Blair and the helpless British electorate. |
The sins of the various European powers is abundantly clear. The U.S. government has never been directly linked of 10 million people like the Belgians in the Congo, then there was what the Germans did in the holocaust, the starvation of millions of Indians due to British policies etc.... However, are these happening now. Of course, some people might be incredulous to hear a German lecturing his transatlantic counterpart about human rights considering the nazi past. However, if you look at history that way, everyone's ancestors have butchered and killed, so why not continue? I mean the Native Americans were butched in both the U.S. and Canada. Canadian and American settlers were part of a colonial settler movement that evolved into a nationhood of mostly Caucasians connected to those people who had nasty wars in the old country and elsewhere.
Okay, my question is how does one then bring up criticism of human rights abuses if we all have skeletons? Do we simply just shut up?
I mean people in many parts of the world can use that argument to great effect pointing out to the sins of the others including Saudi Arabia. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Adventurer:
Just so we're clear, are you arguing the opposite of what you believe? Because your post sounds quite reasonable, and very much in keeping with what I regard as your generally measured, even-handed opinions.
(And that is my sincere opinion of your posts in general.) |
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Big_Bird

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: (op) Three cheers for anti-Americanism |
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And please. My tender sensibilities will tolerate no more slanderous revisionism along the lines of "well, you know, the British and the French helped create the current mess by carving up the Ottoman remnants in a most cynical fashion after WWI." Such malicious nonsense. I find it most unlikely that the British, having in the previous century completed a selfless humanitarian endeavour aimed at bringing to the Chinese people the heavenly nectar that inspired Wordsworth to his poetic heights, would then so heartlessly turn around and do something that fell anywhere short of being in the best interests of colored people. Oops, I mean people of color.
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Well, in that case you'll be very pleased to note that we British are still engaged in these selfless humanitarian endeavours. Our latest venture has been to try and bring democracy to some of the lovely people of colour living in the region of what was once known as Babylon. |
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Gopher

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think you might have missed the general theme of the "op" threads. |
And he continued anyway...
Sorry for laughing.
Mithridates has a rather twisted sense of humor. Perhaps you should have kept this between yourselves and then laughed at all of the likely predictable responses you might have drawn. |
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English_Ocean

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Let's talk about the drug wars? Are you familiar with the term?
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On the other hand
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Our latest venture has been to try and bring democracy to some of the lovely people of colour living in the region of what was once known as Babylon. |
Well, personally, I'd prefer the opium.  |
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cbclark4

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stevemcgarrett

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:10 am Post subject: |
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Plig:
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As an American, I must say that the general feeling of disgust toward AmeriKa and its populace is well deserved. It pains me to see the brave people of France and other countries taking any share of the balme that is deservedly and completely AmeriKan. i can only attest that to the idiotic AmeriKan press, which loves to blame others while portraying Dumbya as an angel. |
Still smoking that weed, eh? Brilliant synopsis of the current world scene; the crowd at Ridgemont High is cheering you on.
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I think anyone who hasn't been brainwashed by a steady diet of Fox News and Chuck Norris would realize that the British and the French had only the best interests of the brown people at heart, and |
This is either obfuscating satire or one of the most inane comments I've read on this forum. Do you work for CNN International? Cheech, you should get together with Chong (aka plig) and form a road act.
Oh, and by the way Plig, if you refer to your country of birth as AmeriKa, you really aren't, except on paper. I suggest defection to the DPRK. |
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mithridates

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