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mithridates
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 Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: (op) Why I support Sharia law |
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http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=76059
The good thing about sharia law is its use in the long term. Having a system of laws based on an unchanging document is better than what we see in a lot of unstable democracies, where policies suddenly change from election to election. If the US used Sharia for example, there wouldn't have been the problem that it has with North Korea where one day the Clinton administration is pursuing better relations, and then the next it's the Bush administration and now it's time to give them the cold shoulder.
The other good thing of course would be the reduction in terrorism. September 11 would never have happened either if the US had just become Muslim. There are a lot of other reasons, but these are two of the best. |
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Pligganease
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Funny, but I was thinking about this the other day. It does make a lot more sense to get rid of the separation of church and state for the simple fact that if everyone believed the same thing, it would eliminate a lot of the problems that the world is currently facing.
It would also be beneficial for there to be a strong moral basis for our laws. I think that women and minorities have had their run of the counry for too long. Since men are morally superior than women, it would only make sense that they lead the country. |
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Woland
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
| I think that women and minorities have had their run of the counry for too long. Since men are morally superior than women, it would only make sense that they lead the country. |
Somebody's just begging to get Lysistrata'd. 
EDIT: Sorry - wasn't in on the premise. I won't change what I wrote above because it's so rare you get a chance to use Lysisitrata as a verb.
I will add, though, that it's a damn shame the EU made the Turkish gov't back down a while back on the adultery law they were planning. I don't see what was wrong with something that would have brought Turkey in line with the state of Michigan. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Mith is on to something here.
Shoplifting is a national disgrace. It raises the prices for everyone. Add a little Sharia to the mix, and voila--a lot fewer sticky fingers. (And it would also eliminate the disgust Koreans feel when we lick our fingers. Two birds with one stone, as it were.
I've also had the pleasure of knowing several women who were a lot more fun when they were stoned than when they were not.
Who needs Lysistrata when we can have Leviticus (the Moslem version)?
And the gay community will be happy when big, hairy Arab Menelaus. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Oops.
I just scrolled down far enough to discover what the 'op' in the heading means. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
Funny, but I was thinking about this the other day. It does make a lot more sense to get rid of the separation of church and state for the simple fact that if everyone believed the same thing, it would eliminate a lot of the problems that the world is currently facing.
It would also be beneficial for there to be a strong moral basis for our laws. I think that women and minorities have had their run of the counry for too long. Since men are morally superior than women, it would only make sense that they lead the country. |
The thing about women is that they've been trying for too long to fit into an area that they don't really belong in. As a man walking at night there's no way I would be afraid of five women across the street, but as a woman alone I'm sure I would. Maybe men are slightly more violent by nature, but women compound this by wearing what they wear sometimes. I remember one imam comparing it to leaving out uncovered meat in a group of rats and that it's no wonder that they aren't able to leave it alone. The thing feminists don't understand is that sharia understands this core part of human nature, and recognizes that the only way to keep it under control is by keeping the woman covered up. Without the temptation (when's the last time you felt tempted to download some porn with a woman covered from head to toe?) there's no problem. If we were born without sin then that would be fine, but we are who we are and thus the women should stay covered up for their own good. In the meantime we the men need to do our best in their place. |
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ariellowen
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| One little problem might be that Sharia law is open to interpretation. Not being much of a drinker, I had a sympathetic look at what the Koran had to say about alcohol; but in fact it says about five different unclear and contradicting things about the topic. As I'm no Koranic scholar, I can't elaborate much, but I'd guess that the patern of unclarity and open-to-debate-ness probably runs all through Islam? |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: Re: (op) Why I support Sharia law |
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| mithridates wrote: |
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=76059
The good thing about sharia law is its use in the long term. Having a system of laws based on an unchanging document is better than what we see in a lot of unstable democracies, where policies suddenly change from election to election. If the US used Sharia for example, there wouldn't have been the problem that it has with North Korea where one day the Clinton administration is pursuing better relations, and then the next it's the Bush administration and now it's time to give them the cold shoulder.
The other good thing of course would be the reduction in terrorism. September 11 would never have happened either if the US had just become Muslim. There are a lot of other reasons, but these are two of the best. |
You forget something very important. Sharia can be interpreted in different ways, so you are in some ways back to square one. Sucks, doesn't it? |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I've also had the pleasure of knowing several women who were a lot more fun when they were stoned than when they were not.
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Hehe! 
As a woman I find wearing the niqab or the burqa a lot less bother than having to prance about in a micro-mini skirt and stilleto heels. This way, I can also get away with washing my hair just once a month, and don't have to panic everyday about co-ordinating my wardrobe and choosing appropriate accessories. The burqa is particularly appealing, because that way I don't have to waste lots of money on expensive cosmetics or even protective sunscreen. I can gamble it on the pokies instead. I can also sneer and pull faces behind my veil at the silly people I meet without even causing them any offense. Shoplifting also becomes much easier when you can hide your ill gotten loot under your long shapeless gown.
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| [ I remember one imam comparing it to leaving out uncovered meat in a group of rats and that it's no wonder that they aren't able to leave it alone. |
In the interests of accuracy: it was cats not rats.
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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The thing about women is that they've been trying for too long to fit into an area that they don't really belong in. As a man walking at night there's no way I would be afraid of five women across the street, but as a woman alone I'm sure I would. . |
So if you were a woman walking alone, you would be afraid of five women across the street? |
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cbclark4
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mithridates
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
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The thing about women is that they've been trying for too long to fit into an area that they don't really belong in. As a man walking at night there's no way I would be afraid of five women across the street, but as a woman alone I'm sure I would. . |
So if you were a woman walking alone, you would be afraid of five women across the street? |
No, men. Looking for typos in my post isn't going to help your extreme left-wing ideology one whit. |
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Pligganease
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| No, men. Looking for typos in my post isn't going to help your extreme left-wing ideology one whit. |
Really. Just look at ddeubel, a man who I respect immensely, and you'll see that grammar mistakes hardly interfere with the ability to convey your thoughts. |
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Rteacher
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Sharia Law is a relatively modern development. Go back to the "Laws of Manu" for the real deal:
For overview: http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/encyclopedia/manusamhita.htm
For detailed translation (Chapter 9): http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/samhita/manu/09.html
All Chapters: http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/samhita/manu/
Here's some ancient insight into the (true...false) nature of women:
13. Drinking (spirituous liquor), associating with wicked people, separation from the husband, rambling abroad, sleeping (at unseasonable hours), and dwelling in other men�s houses, are the six causes of the ruin of women.
14. Women do not care for beauty, nor is their attention fixed on age; (thinking), �(It is enough that) he is a man,� they give themselves to the handsome and to the ugly.
15. Through their passion for men, through their mutable temper, through their natural heartlessness, they become disloyal towards their husbands, however carefully they may be guarded in this (world).
16. Knowing their disposition, which the Lord of creatures laid in them at the creation, to be such, (every) man should most strenuously exert himself to guard them.
17. (When creating them) Manu allotted to women (a love of their) bed, (of their) seat and (of) ornament, impure desires, wrath, dishonesty, malice, and bad conduct... |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
Sharia Law is a relatively modern development. Go back to the "Laws of Manu" for the real deal:
For overview: http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/encyclopedia/manusamhita.htm
For detailed translation (Chapter 9): http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/samhita/manu/09.html
All Chapters: http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/samhita/manu/
Here's some ancient insight into the (true...false) nature of women:
13. Drinking (spirituous liquor), associating with wicked people, separation from the husband, rambling abroad, sleeping (at unseasonable hours), and dwelling in other men�s houses, are the six causes of the ruin of women.
14. Women do not care for beauty, nor is their attention fixed on age; (thinking), �(It is enough that) he is a man,� they give themselves to the handsome and to the ugly.
15. Through their passion for men, through their mutable temper, through their natural heartlessness, they become disloyal towards their husbands, however carefully they may be guarded in this (world).
16. Knowing their disposition, which the Lord of creatures laid in them at the creation, to be such, (every) man should most strenuously exert himself to guard them.
17. (When creating them) Manu allotted to women (a love of their) bed, (of their) seat and (of) ornament, impure desires, wrath, dishonesty, malice, and bad conduct... |
wah.... wah..... |
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