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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: what's your freedom worth? Reply with quote

http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/america_freedom_to_fascism.htm

an interesting introduction to the serious dangers facing american liberty
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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry this is in the wrong forum, perhaps a mod could move it?
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PimpofKorea



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freedom costs a buck o' five
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Freedom costs a buck o' five


Absolutely right.
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PimpofKorea



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
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Freedom costs a buck o' five


Absolutely right.


I haven't seen that movie in awhile... Team America wouldnt do too well over here with all of its anti-North Korea propaganda.
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PimpofKorea wrote:
Freedom costs a buck o' five


Is that a pad or for the whole box?

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blynch



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

240 yrs of freedom... go america go all the way!!!
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

being free from teaching english.. priceless
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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also check out the website www.freedomtofascism.com
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check this out. Absolutely horrible:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id//16668110/

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Gonzales: Judges unfit to rule on terror policy

Attorney general says federal jurists should defer to president's will

Updated: 8:07 a.m. ET Jan. 17, 2007
WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales says federal judges are unqualified to make rulings affecting national security policy, ramping up his criticism of how they handle terrorism cases.

In remarks prepared for delivery Wednesday, Gonzales says judges generally should defer to the will of the president and Congress when deciding national security cases. He also raps jurists who �apply an activist philosophy that stretches the law to suit policy preferences.�

The text of the speech, scheduled for delivery at the American Enterprise Institute, was obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press. It outlines, in part, what qualities the Bush administration looks for when selecting candidates for the federal bench.

�We want to determine whether he understands the inherent limits that make an unelected judiciary inferior to Congress or the president in making policy judgments,� Gonzales says in the prepared speech. �That, for example, a judge will never be in the best position to know what is in the national security interests of our country.�

Challenges to Bush policies

Gonzales did not cite any specific activist jurists, or give examples of national security cases, in his prepared text. The Justice Department is appealing an August decision by U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit, who ruled the government�s warrantless surveillance program unconstitutional and ordered it stopped immediately.

The Justice Department appealed her decision and the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati has ruled that the administration can keep the program in place during the appeal.

Attorneys representing terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo Bay are challenging the legality of a law, signed by President Bush in October, that authorizes military trials. Those challenges raise the possibility that trials will be struck down by a federal appeals court or the Supreme Court.

Gonzales, a former Texas Supreme Court justice, has in the past warned about judges who inject their personal beliefs in cases. But his prepared remarks Wednesday mark his sharpest words over concerns about the federal judiciary � the third, and equal, branch of government.

Judges who �apply an activist philosophy that stretches the law to suit policy preferences, they actually reduce the credibility and authority of the judiciary,� Gonzales says. �In so doing, they undermine the rule of law that strengthens our democracy.�

Even so, Gonzales characterized efforts to retaliate against unpopular rulings as misguided, noting a failed South Dakota proposal to sue or jail judges for making unpopular court decisions. He also called for Congress to consider increasing the number of federal judges to handle heavy workloads, and to offer them higher salaries to lure and keep the best jurists on the bench.

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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha!


Very Happy


Interviewer: "My question is...do you have any fear of the IRS?"

Dude with the hat & sunglasses: Uhhhh, not really....coz I'm Canadian.
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kotakji



Joined: 23 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh well theres an hour and a half I wont get back. It started out ok, but really went off the deepend the further it progressed. Kinda Michael Moorish in bias.

While he at least attempted to backup the whole IRS thing, most of his other points were largely unsubstantiated or backed only by quotes take way out of historical context.

Out of curiosity, why is world government seen as such an evil that even mentioning it should cause shivers?
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UMPhilthy



Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Location: Nowon-gu

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: West Wing Reply with quote

From the Pilot of the West Wing (Thank you Aaron Sorkin)

Fat Christian Asshole: "Surely you think that our children being able to buy pornography on any street corner for 5 dollars is too great a price to pay for free speech."

President Bartlett: "No. But 5 dollars is too much to pay for pornography."

(Its a rough quote, you get the point).
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