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essexboy



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: close to orgasm

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: No pension refund? WTF!!! Reply with quote

I have heard from a recrutiment consultant friend of mine that as i am a resident of the UK i do not get a refund on the pension i am paying. How can this make any sense?
And i have also just been stung by a ridiculous income tax deduction. Not a good month Evil or Very Mad
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vdowd



Joined: 11 Feb 2003
Location: Iksan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: UK Pension Reply with quote

I think you are right. Some countries, like the US and Canada, can get a money refund.

Previously, UK citizens could not get a refund or any benefit from paying into the fund and some employers used this to their advantage by saying they were doing you a favor by not deducting it - and of course not matching it out of their pocket. However, I think rules have changed for the UK and now you can transfer your pension payments and their matching contribution into your UK pension.

Not money in hand but double money later in life which is better than zero. Check it out with the Pension Board - I could be wrong.
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wisernow



Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:49 am    Post subject: Who is to blame? Reply with quote

I heard from a Korean tax accountant friend that the UK and the Korean government had almost completed the tax treaty that would have given UK teachers the same benefit that Canadians and N.Americans have, which is getting back their pension tax of 4.5% and the schools 4.5%, which would be 9% of your annual salary.

Who is to blame for this not becoming law is my guess. Was it the UK government or the Korean government? In the future this agreement could become law and maybe the pension tax funds that you had paid would be given back to you if it is retroactive.
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snowy32



Joined: 03 Dec 2005
Location: NZ

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm from NZ and I'm in a similar situation. How can they justify taking money off us under a pension scheme but giving none in return. They could at least be honest about it and say they are going rip us off every month and would we mind? Oh yeah sure, go ahead.
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kangnam mafioso



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Teheranno

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreans working legally in the usa must pay into and recieve social security (american version of pension); therefore, americans working in korea are entitled to the same benefits. i can't speak for other countries but i assume koreans working in england experience a similar injustice as you are now.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowy32 wrote:
Yeah, I'm from NZ and I'm in a similar situation. How can they justify taking money off us under a pension scheme but giving none in return. They could at least be honest about it and say they are going rip us off every month and would we mind? Oh yeah sure, go ahead.


Because Koreans don't get the contributions they make to NZ super back.

I'm lucky that I got Canadian citizenship, so I can take mine back to me when I go to NZ.
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beast



Joined: 28 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's because when you come here to Korea, you have to know the law and all the rules yourself or else you get taken advantage of. So many schools will deduct the pension from your pay, knowing full well that you are not aloud to make contributions because of your nationality.

Health care is the same, if they are deducting money for health insurance, then make sure you get a health card from them.

As for tax. I see so many posts on here from people wondering what they should be paying. In this day and age with internet, it's not that hard to figure out. Just go to the government website. It's in English, you punch in how much money you are making and it tells you how much tax you should be paying. Income tax that is. Resident tax is different.

Apartment fees are the same thing. Ask to see the bills. Don't just accept random deductions here and there. I sometimes wonder just how dumb people are when they just accept massive deductions from their pay and then turn to this board to find out if they were screwed or not.
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korea252



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul, Haebangchon

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beast wrote:
So many schools will deduct the pension from your pay, knowing full well that you are not aloud to make contributions because of your nationality.


Which nationalities are not allowed to make contributions?
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beast



Joined: 28 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know for a fact South Africans can not make contributions. I would hazard a guess on a few other nationalities, but won't, because I'm not certain.
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blynch



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
snowy32 wrote:
Yeah, I'm from NZ and I'm in a similar situation. How can they justify taking money off us under a pension scheme but giving none in return. They could at least be honest about it and say they are going rip us off every month and would we mind? Oh yeah sure, go ahead.


Because Koreans don't get the contributions they make to NZ super back.

I'm lucky that I got Canadian citizenship, so I can take mine back to me when I go to NZ.

crazylemongirl, u crack me up...
i wants ma canadian citizenship plz.
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