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(op) Why I support Sharia law
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need to cry, "Chimp..." Laughing , that was written down like 4500 years ago (and reportedly spoken millions of years ago...) By now, there's not that much difference between men and women (eg: Ryan Seacrest and Rosie O'Donnell...)

And even Vedic culture understood that material designations like male and female are only temperary outer coverings on the eternally individual souls. Many spirit-souls in male bodies now had female bodies in their previous life - and vice-versa. For transcendentalists, who no longer completely identify themselves with their material bodies, there are far fewer problems...


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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChimpumCallao wrote:
Rteacher wrote:
Sharia Law is a relatively modern development. Go back to the "Laws of Manu" for the real deal:

For overview: http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/encyclopedia/manusamhita.htm
For detailed translation (Chapter 9): http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/samhita/manu/09.html
All Chapters: http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/samhita/manu/

Here's some ancient insight into the (true...false) nature of women:
13. Drinking (spirituous liquor), associating with wicked people, separation from the husband, rambling abroad, sleeping (at unseasonable hours), and dwelling in other men�s houses, are the six causes of the ruin of women.

14. Women do not care for beauty, nor is their attention fixed on age; (thinking), �(It is enough that) he is a man,� they give themselves to the handsome and to the ugly.

15. Through their passion for men, through their mutable temper, through their natural heartlessness, they become disloyal towards their husbands, however carefully they may be guarded in this (world).

16. Knowing their disposition, which the Lord of creatures laid in them at the creation, to be such, (every) man should most strenuously exert himself to guard them.

17. (When creating them) Manu allotted to women (a love of their) bed, (of their) seat and (of) ornament, impure desires, wrath, dishonesty, malice, and bad conduct...


wah.... wah.....


someone isn't following the objective of the (op) bit.

Sharia works. If it didn't, why is the murder rate in Saudi, Kuwait, and the Gulf States so much lower than the USA?
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any strong authoritarian government will have low crime rates. When Sharia law is implented, enforcement is further motivated by religious fanaticism. Authoritarian, totalitarian regimes fueled by extreme nationalism or atheistic communism can also effect low crime rates (eg: I think that North Korea has the lowest crime rate among nations...)

My point was that the Laws of Manu were the original "law books" of ancient Indian civilization. Arguably, Vedic culture is the source of all other religions (eg: Muhammad was apparently predicted in the Bhavisya Purana ...)

Unlike Islam, Vedic culture is not an organized religion. However, in ancient times when there were truly saintly kings who were empowered incarnations of God, totalitarian rule was a good thing. Vedic culture is adaptable within any political framework, however, as long as there is religious freedom and tolerance. In these times of rampant corruption, all politcial, social and religious institutions should have checks-and-balences on power...

Nations with Sharia law - like atheistic communist states - have poor records with respect to religious freedom and tolerance...

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/vedic_culture_hinduism_a_short_introduction.htm
http://uiforum.uaeforum.org/showthread.php?t=2868

While googling, I stumbled across the always interesting Nostrodamus prophesies: http://www.newprophecy.net/viewpoint2.htm


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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Nations with Sharia law - like atheistic communist states - have poor records with respect to religious freedom and tolerance


That's complete BS. You are 100% free and encouraged to practice religion. It might not be your religion, but it's religion none the less. I can't wait to buy my mom's first bee-keeper suit.
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ChimpumCallao



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
ChimpumCallao wrote:
Rteacher wrote:
Sharia Law is a relatively modern development. Go back to the "Laws of Manu" for the real deal:

For overview: http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/encyclopedia/manusamhita.htm
For detailed translation (Chapter 9): http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/samhita/manu/09.html
All Chapters: http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/samhita/manu/

Here's some ancient insight into the (true...false) nature of women:
13. Drinking (spirituous liquor), associating with wicked people, separation from the husband, rambling abroad, sleeping (at unseasonable hours), and dwelling in other men�s houses, are the six causes of the ruin of women.

14. Women do not care for beauty, nor is their attention fixed on age; (thinking), �(It is enough that) he is a man,� they give themselves to the handsome and to the ugly.

15. Through their passion for men, through their mutable temper, through their natural heartlessness, they become disloyal towards their husbands, however carefully they may be guarded in this (world).

16. Knowing their disposition, which the Lord of creatures laid in them at the creation, to be such, (every) man should most strenuously exert himself to guard them.

17. (When creating them) Manu allotted to women (a love of their) bed, (of their) seat and (of) ornament, impure desires, wrath, dishonesty, malice, and bad conduct...


wah.... wah.....


someone isn't following the objective of the (op) bit.

Sharia works. If it didn't, why is the murder rate in Saudi, Kuwait, and the Gulf States so much lower than the USA?


I wasn't depicting crying! You know when someone spoils a joke, the wah wah, sound?? sort of like a trumpet. I guess its hard to make the sound when writing.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whoops. my apologies.
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ChimpumCallao



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
whoops. my apologies.


No prob.

Id also like to add, Rteacher is really awesome and I always totally 'get' his posts.

I'd be the Fatimah to your Mohammad anyday....
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang,... Fatimah was Muhammad's daughter - "Fatima is a part of my flesh: whoever causes her to be upset, upsets me."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatima_Zahra

I thought you were jokingly referring to Muhammad's young wife, Aisha (who apparently was at least 15 - not 9 years old - when she married the Prophet ...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha's_age_at_marriage#Evidence_that_Aisha_was_older_than_nine
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChimpumCallao wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
ChimpumCallao wrote:
Rteacher wrote:
Sharia Law is a relatively modern development. Go back to the "Laws of Manu" for the real deal:

For overview: http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/encyclopedia/manusamhita.htm
For detailed translation (Chapter 9): http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/samhita/manu/09.html
All Chapters: http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/samhita/manu/

Here's some ancient insight into the (true...false) nature of women:
13. Drinking (spirituous liquor), associating with wicked people, separation from the husband, rambling abroad, sleeping (at unseasonable hours), and dwelling in other men�s houses, are the six causes of the ruin of women.

14. Women do not care for beauty, nor is their attention fixed on age; (thinking), �(It is enough that) he is a man,� they give themselves to the handsome and to the ugly.

15. Through their passion for men, through their mutable temper, through their natural heartlessness, they become disloyal towards their husbands, however carefully they may be guarded in this (world).

16. Knowing their disposition, which the Lord of creatures laid in them at the creation, to be such, (every) man should most strenuously exert himself to guard them.

17. (When creating them) Manu allotted to women (a love of their) bed, (of their) seat and (of) ornament, impure desires, wrath, dishonesty, malice, and bad conduct...


wah.... wah.....


someone isn't following the objective of the (op) bit.

Sharia works. If it didn't, why is the murder rate in Saudi, Kuwait, and the Gulf States so much lower than the USA?


I wasn't depicting crying! You know when someone spoils a joke, the wah wah, sound?? sort of like a trumpet. I guess its hard to make the sound when writing.


In that case the Wah Wah should have been waw waw for the trumpet sound I think the wah wah is the guitar sound and waah waah is the cry baby sound.

cbc
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