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Skull shows possible human/Neanderthal breeding
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Skull shows possible human/Neanderthal breeding Reply with quote

Skull shows possible human/Neanderthal breeding

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A 40,000-year-old skull found in a Romanian cave shows traits of both modern humans and Neanderthals and might prove the two interbred, researchers reported on Monday.

If the findings are confirmed, the skull would represent the oldest modern human remains yet found in Europe.

The study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, will add to the debate over whether modern Homo sapiens simply killed off their Neanderthal cousins, or had some intimate interactions with them first.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, this is nothing new actually. To put this in simple terms, the hole in the skull where the spinal cord and the brain connect is the key. In most of the world's peoples this hole is perfectly circular. In northern Europeans, however, it is frequently jagged. A jagged hole is not comensurate with Homo sapiens sapiens, but rather with Homo sapiens neanderthalis. Furthermore, note how they are both of the same species, just of varying subspecies? By extension of precendent, we know that whenever two groups of people are in close contact they will breed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he used to play center for the Knicks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard about this before too and it poses a lot of interesting questions.

Many of which are very politically incorrect.

I do however wonder what evolutionary effect this may of had on the Europeans who have this homo sapian and neandrathal mix within them?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The neanderthal DNA has been sequenced, and bears no relation to that of humans.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonicat wrote:
By extension of precendent, we know that whenever two groups of people are in close contact they will breed.


That's assuming homo sapiens could successfully breed with Neanderthals. Were Neanderthals "people" ? And the studies of Neanderthal DNA don't rule out interbreeding.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote







have scientists managed to explain the unearthing of giant human bones and other remains, (worldwide) yet?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:

have scientists managed to explain the unearthing of giant human bones and other remains, (worldwide) yet?


Obviously the fundies are right:

Genesis 6:4 "Now giants were upon the earth in those days."
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:23 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Anybody who wants to see human-Neandrathal breeding can just head to Itaewon on a Saturday night.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:






have scientists managed to explain the unearthing of giant human bones and other remains, (worldwide) yet?


Crap, not one of those Genesis 6 giants.

The Malachite Man is a creationist hoax. Don't know where the first was taken, but the second picture is of a sculpture at the Mt. Blanco Fossil 'Museum', a creation museum in Kentucky.

http://www.mtblanco.com/MtBlancoNews/2005/FoxNewsStoryCreationMuseum.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
have scientists managed to explain the unearthing of giant human bones and other remains, (worldwide) yet?

yeah!

And I personally think it's an outrage how scientists keep oppressing Expanding Earth theorists, Intelligent Design supporters, and Big Foot's right to vote with their silly demands for real evidence!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracing Ancestry with MtDNA
By Rick Groleau

In 1987, three scientists announced in the journal Nature that they had found a common ancestor to us all, a woman who lived in Africa 200,000 years ago. She was given the name "Eve," which was great for capturing attention, though somewhat misleading, as the name at once brought to mind the biblical Eve, and with it the mistaken notion that the ancestor was the first of our species -- the woman from whom all humankind descended.

The "Eve" in question was actually the most recent common ancestor through matrilineal descent of all humans living today. That is, all people alive today can trace some of their genetic heritage through their mothers back to this one woman. The scientists hypothesized this ancient woman's existence by looking within the cells of living people and analyzing short loops of genetic code known as mitochondrial DNA, or mtDNA for short. In recent years, scientists have used mtDNA to trace the evolution and migration of human species, including when the common ancestor to modern humans and Neanderthals lived -- though there has been considerable debate over the validity and value of the findings.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/neanderthals/mtdna.html

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/3917/links.html


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Neanderthal heritage in some people would go a long way in explaining the quality of thinking that is expressed by some posters.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neandethals were never stupid. They invented complex religions, social systems, and culture waaaaay before Homo sapiens. What happened to them is truly a mystery. Some believe they interbred (I like that theory due to aforementioned skull structures). Some believe that while Neanders were developing that culture, Homo Sapiens were developing weapons (especially projectiles)...not too good for Neanders. The final theory is that due to a different musculature of the larynx, they never developed the linguistic capabillities of Homo sapiens. They had all of these problems, but were never stupid.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
The neanderthal DNA has been sequenced, and bears no relation to that of humans.

Neanderthals are humans.
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