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Ned



Joined: 09 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Korea versus Indonesia Reply with quote

Is there anyone out there who has worked in both Indonesia and Korea? How would you compare living and working in Korea to living and working in Indonesia? Cheers...
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't worked in Indonesia, but my friend really enjoyed it. There's more jobs, more money and less threats from bombs in Korea.
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
I haven't worked in Indonesia, but my friend really enjoyed it. There's more jobs, more money and less threats from bombs in Korea.


My friend in Indonesia pay her Indonesian maid $ 60 a month and my friend in korea pay her phillippino maid $ 1000 a month, so figure out.
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aldershot



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

surf in indo is wild. EF schools abound down there and they're all crap money, about 700$ a month. if you don't care about money, indo's an awesomely diverse place to live. don't live in jakarta though, you'll lose your mind.

i prefer to live and work in korea and take 4 month vacations to java. that's the life.... mmmm....
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just left indonesia last month. I worked there for 7 months, and in Korea for 2 years. Indonesia (outside of Bali) is a hellish evil place filled with corruption, backstabbing, and desperation. Those who suggest how great it is have probably been there on vacation if at all. DO NOT WORK THERE.
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Delirium's Brother



Joined: 08 May 2006
Location: Out in that field with Rumi, waiting for you to join us!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've lived and worked in Indonesia for a year... Indonesian bureacracy is at least 3 or 4 orders of magnitude more byzantine than Korean bureacracy. And don't think that you are safe from bombs in Indonesia. They're just not nuclear is all.

If you are planning on living in Indonesia, you better be a self-reliant, seasoned expat.

Korea is SOFT, Indonesia is HARD.

Others might disagree with me; but I am talking about living there; not just visiting.
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Rockwell Bergstrom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked in Indonesia for almost two years. I've been in Korea on and off for a while.

It depends where you would be in terms of what kind of experience you would have. Some might say that the same is true of Korea, but I would beg to differ. Korea is made up of one culture and Indonesia has over 300 different cultures. Jakarta is one kind of experience, Java can be a hundred different kinds of experiences and Sumatra more still. Sulawesi and Kalimantan, well...

If I were you I would go for a year but expect it to be a tough year. You will not make much money ($700 is probably right) and as another poster said, there are bombs, not to mention other types of crime as well (do not ride the buses in Jakarta and only take Blue Bird Taxis).

If I had to sum Indonesia up in one word it would be, intense (as in coming at you from a hundred directions).

I second what someone else said about the corruption and bureaucracy.

If you haven't been in Korea too long, it might not be too hard of an adjustment. If you've been here a while, it makes Korea seem like a walk in the park.
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Delirium's Brother



Joined: 08 May 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rockwell Bergstrom wrote:
it makes Korea seem like a walk in the park.

Amen!
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rockwell Bergstrom wrote:
Korea is made up of one culture and Indonesia has over 300 different cultures. Jakarta is one kind of experience, Java can be a hundred different kinds of experiences and Sumatra more still. Sulawesi and Kalimantan, well...
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a hundred cultures where they want to blow up westerners.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd choose Korea for the money, Indonesia for everything else. Jakarta is a city with a soul. Korea doesn't seem to have anything approaching it, IMHO.
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What soul does Jakarta have?
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miss Seoul

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My friend in Indonesia pay her Indonesian maid $ 60 a month and my friend in korea pay her phillippino maid $ 1000 a month, so figure out.


Let's talk what pay is converted to American dollars or British pounds. I think you are trying to say Indonesia has cheaper goods, but what do employees make per month. Most English teachers don't need a maid, and if a maid costs $1000, it's not a maid, it's a prostitute.
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Ned



Joined: 09 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: I'm listening... Reply with quote

I appreciate all your comments and wonder if some of them may alter your opinion if I tell you I am thinking of teaching at a reputable language school in Bandung. Have any of you taught in Bandung?

Cheers,
Ned
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonicat wrote:
What soul does Jakarta have?


A music scene, culture (many may I add) better and cheaper restaurants, nightlife, people who are interesting as opposed to one-dimensional automatons. You'd disagree?
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: I'm listening... Reply with quote

Ned wrote:
I appreciate all your comments and wonder if some of them may alter your opinion if I tell you I am thinking of teaching at a reputable language school in Bandung. Have any of you taught in Bandung?

Cheers,
Ned


Haven't taught there but spent a deal of time in that wonderful city. What do you want to know about it.
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