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Coal mine disaster... so I guess it wasn't a miracle!
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RachaelRoo



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minemetoo, can you shut the *beep* up?
You are giving some readers of this forum the impression that all Canadians share your disgusting sentiments.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RachaelRoo wrote:
Minemetoo, can you shut the *beep* up?
You are giving some readers of this forum the impression that all Canadians share your disgusting sentiments.


agree. I was quite surprised by your comments.

By the way, what is up with your avatar? Are you just showing off your girlfriend, or is it her who puts it up (if she is your girlfriend ofcourse)? I have been wondering this for awhile? Smile
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
By the way, what is up with your avatar? Are you just showing off your girlfriend, or is it her who puts it up (if she is your girlfriend ofcourse)? I have been wondering this for awhile? Smile


His outrageous commentary aside, his avatar once won him a letter of admiration from an expat trying to pick him up. Funny story. I recall he posted the letter somewhere on this board.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, I feel sorry for the people who lost husbands and fathers, but this need to claim god is killing and saving people to send some kind of political message is pathetic. Note the flyer below:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/jan2006/20060104_twelve-dead-miners.pdf
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RachaelRoo wrote:
Minemetoo, can you shut the *beep* up?
You are giving some readers of this forum the impression that all Canadians share your disgusting sentiments.


I don't think anyone would think I'm speaking for all Canadians. Your comment is just stupid.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
mithridates wrote:
This is just a classic case of someone (the op) deciding to pay extra close attention to word usage when nobody else is. Usually 'it's a miracle' is closer to 'wow, I'm so relieved' than 'I firmly believe that God swooped in and did all that' regardless of where the expression came from. Might as well get mad at the phrase insh'Allah because it has the word God in it when I assume that a lot of people just use it in the sense that "well, I certainly hope so".

Once again, the only way to get rid of this is with some Ithkuil.


Will Ithkuil help me make better sense out of "Americans don't understand English"? or his use of "hillbillies" to apparently dehumanize people who just died a tragic death? Because maybe I'm misinterpreting his word usage here, too.


What I mean is that he's seized upon an oft-used phrase originally used in a religious context and decided to think more about the etymology than the way it was likely used in this situation. If a friend doesn't die and you say 'wow, that was a miracle' most of the time it doesn't mean that you've given it ten minutes thought, decided that it was divine intervention and then concluded that a miracle had occurred - it's more a statement of relief and gratitude that's it.
The Ithkuil thing was because it's impossible to take vagueness out of a language unless you make a whole new one. It's amazing how many arguments come from a simple misunderstanding of how a language is used, in this case more on purpose though as it gives a good chance to get on one's soapbox and trash religion a little too.
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RachaelRoo



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
RachaelRoo wrote:
Minemetoo, can you shut the *beep* up?
You are giving some readers of this forum the impression that all Canadians share your disgusting sentiments.


I don't think anyone would think I'm speaking for all Canadians. Your comment is just stupid.


A non-canadian PMed me and mentioned that this Canadian attitude bothers them.
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RachaelRoo



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
RachaelRoo wrote:
Minemetoo, can you shut the *beep* up?
You are giving some readers of this forum the impression that all Canadians share your disgusting sentiments.


I don't think anyone would think I'm speaking for all Canadians. Your comment is just stupid.


Yeah, MY comment is stupid Rolling Eyes
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Look, I feel sorry for the people who lost husbands and fathers, but this need to claim god is killing and saving people to send some kind of political message is pathetic.


None of the people you were ridiculing in your previous posts were making a claim about political messages. So bringing Reverend Phelps into at this point is just irrelevant.
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shortskirt_longjacket



Joined: 06 Jun 2004
Location: fitz and ernie are my raison d'etre

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Look, I feel sorry for the people who lost husbands and fathers, but this need to claim god is killing and saving people to send some kind of political message is pathetic. Note the flyer below:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/jan2006/20060104_twelve-dead-miners.pdf


So if you can say that these miners dying is fitting or just deserts without knowing their religious or political affiliation, only because you know they were Americans, do all Americans deserve a similar fate?

Are you advocating the death of Americans on this board, for example?

I'm just trying to figure out why you think it is these guys deserved to die for America's sins.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Pat Roberston did think Sharon got his stroke because he went against god's wishes.

Robertson shows he's a nut again
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a real miracle were to happen and someone wanted to make a movie of mindmetoo's life, you can bet a sensitive person like Alan Alda would not be asked to play him.
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gypsyfish



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
I'm being harsh in the face of a horrible tragedy because we keep seeing American voters doing exactly the same thing that's causing so much death in the Middle East and the reason an American president is rendering Iraqi babies down into a handful of carbon with phosphorus bombs. People assume their god works magic for the faithful and sends horrible disease and disaster after transgressors. Death and suffering are justified because of a loss of faith or a refusal to believe in some god.


No, You're being "harsh" because you're a jerk, elitist, American hating atheist who is hap, hap, happy to exploit the deaths of people to push his agenda.

I don't know (or really care) if there's a heaven or hell, but it's times like this that I hope there is, so you can be punished for your mean comments, rather than just becoming worm crap when you die.

Sorry if I'm a little harsh. I'm from West Virginia and, while I don't know anyone who died in the Sago mine, I grew up with people like them and many are good people who no more deserved to die than deserve to be used as pawns in your snobbish and condescending posts.

Dick.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
How the heck did the first story get out??


I think the explanation for this is now clear: they were desperate for good news, and the chain of communication was complex from the mine to the surface and the church.

Who can fault them for this?
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amberflannery



Joined: 25 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: my town Reply with quote

thats my town that big coal mine thing happened in, i live about 10 miles ish from there. everyone in town is pissed about the misscommunication and is suing. my heart dropped and so did everyone elses in town except the crazy protestors that showed up who said god was punishing us.
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