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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man
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 Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: is anybody else getting a guilt trip... |
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for having vacation time? everyone who can speak english at my high school has been telling me how busy they are and how they don't have vacation time.
i just want to say 'boo freaking hoo', but i think that will alienate me from them even more. |
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Missile Command Kid
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Don't feel guilty. Don't wait for your co-workers to complain. Constantly say to everybody who will listen, "I feel so bad for having vacation time now!" and "How are you doing?" and as you walk out the door "Don't work too hard, okay? Promise?"
A little empathy works wonders in these sorts of situations. |
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ChuckECheese
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Also tell them that you'll be thinking about them when you're lying on the beach and sipping on your kewl c0cktail.
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antoniothegreat
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| tell them if they worked on their organizational skills they wouldnt be so busy... |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ChuckECheese wrote: |
| Also tell them that you'll be thinking about them when you're lying on the beach and sipping on your kewl c0cktail. |
...except i've already been on my vacation and it was just around Korea, which has been friggin cold. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand these Job-related Forum vacation threads. Half of them are biatching about Koreans getting 35-day winter breaks while whitey only gets 7 days off, and the other half are biatching about Koreans guilt-tripping whitey for all his/her vacation time.  |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| JongnoGuru wrote: |
| I don't understand these Job-related Forum vacation threads. Half of them are biatching about Koreans getting 35-day winter breaks while whitey only gets 7 days off, and the other half are biatching about Koreans guilt-tripping whitey for all his/her vacation time. |
i've written both types-- first they weren't going to give me any vacation outside of "school being locked up and completely closed down days". then i got 9 days vacation time (i was only given 5 in the summer) and now my co-workers hate me. oh, what a wonderful school i work for. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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All the Korean teachers at my high school are on vacation at least till February 8; technically, I only have 5 days vacation left. However, I've had no classes to teach since Christmas and was allowed to go home at noon. Since I'm not supposed to be on vacation, my main Korean co-teacher gave me one of her Korean-authored English text books and told me to check it for mistakes while staying home. (Upon quick perusal, I could tell that it had already been well edited by native English teachers...)
All the Korean teachers got their pay before the vacation, but I have to wait till my regular pay day at the end of the month. When a couple Korean teachers wished me a "wonderful holiday" I complained that I didn't have enough money to do anything (because of emergency travel my savings is used up - and my BC card is blocked till I get paid...) so I shamelessly borrowed all the extra cash that they had in their wallets ...
Actually, probably because I bring in a lot of fruit and snacks, I'm popular among the Korean teachers, and they gave me 100,000 won out of their teacher's fund to help with my travel expenses... |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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To avoid the guilty feeling, do what I do. I keep in mind that when a Korean says, "I am very busy" what I HEAR is, "I'm not sleeping". Koreans use the word 'busy' as a code word to hide what they are really doing from their boss.
'Busy' includes internet shopping, standing on the stairs smoking and talking to/about girls, playing a marathon billiard tournament instead of studying, 차팅...all count as 'busy'. |
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The Hierophant
Joined: 13 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I keep in mind that when a Korean says, "I am very busy" what I HEAR is, "I'm not sleeping". Koreans use the word 'busy' as a code word to hide what they are really doing from their boss.
'Busy' includes internet shopping, standing on the stairs smoking and talking to/about girls, playing a marathon billiard tournament instead of studying, 차팅...all count as 'busy'. |
pre-CISEly!  |
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Pak Yu Man
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Tell them this "When you leave your home country to go work abroad...then you can expect some perks too. Until then STFU  "
Here's somethng I bet you've never heard of. When I was teaching high school the teachers would always give me extra time off and let me go home early. One guy taught 1 hour on Fridays.
"Chris...you've had a very hard week. How about you rest on Friday and I'll teach your 2 classes for you."
Damn I loved Mr. Jang. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: |
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I fell for the busy line for about two years. My very first students were Choongnam DaeHakyo students and they said they got up in the dark and had to get to the library at the crack of dawn or they wouldn't get a seat and had to study all day. I swallowed it hook, line and sinker...and maybe the fishing pole, too.
THEN I did a pvt class on campus and as I rode to my class at the far end of the campus, I noticed hoards of students outside, standing around, playing jo-koo, flirting with the girls, playing hacky sack, snoozing under a tree, and just generally hanging out and doing f-all.
I got to be good friends with a couple of my students and one night when we were out drinking in Koong-dong, I asked them about the discrepancy between what I'd been told and what I saw with my own eyes.
They laughed and said, Mr. Ya-ta! You Korean. |
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antoniothegreat
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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KOREAN TALK 101
Im busy=
(1) i dont want to
(2) i am pretending to have things to do so the boss doesnt assign more
(3) the wife is POff at me so i am staying here
(4) I am waiting for the bars to open with my buddies but dont want to do anything
(5) I am a lazy fcuk and i dont want to help
(6) I dont like you so I dont want to help you
(7) I drank too much soju and am inoperative today (but strangely in Korean culture I am a good teacher because I made it to work today, eventhough I beat my students that did nothing wrong because I have a hang over, and my classes are a waste of time)
( anything I missed??? |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I fell for the busy line for about two years. My very first students were Choongnam DaeHakyo students and they said they got up in the dark and had to get to the library at the crack of dawn or they wouldn't get a seat and had to study all day. I swallowed it hook, line and sinker...and maybe the fishing pole, too.
THEN I did a pvt class on campus and as I rode to my class at the far end of the campus, I noticed hoards of students outside, standing around, playing jo-koo, flirting with the girls, playing hacky sack, snoozing under a tree, and just generally hanging out and doing f-all.
I got to be good friends with a couple of my students and one night when we were out drinking in Koong-dong, I asked them about the discrepancy between what I'd been told and what I saw with my own eyes.
They laughed and said, Mr. Ya-ta! You Korean. |
I always laugh when students tell me that they're going to the library. I say "To study??? NOOOOOO To talk to your friends, sleep, eat snacks, keep warm!! Of COURSE you're not going to study English!!!!"
It always gets a laugh.
When I work on "Where are you going?" with freshmen (especially PE students!) and they say "I'm going to the library." I say "Wow! Do you know where the library is???? GREAT!!"  |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Before my current job(academy) I negotiated 3 weeks vacation at christmas so I could go back to ireland. Withstood serious guilt tripping from my boss before I went. He wanted me to reduce my holiday. My co-workers were alright about it. I got back too late to start the intensive course and they have been noticably colder, since they have to work mornings now and i don't. It doesnt help that the holiday put me in a really good mood.
Also they told parents that my mom was sick and that why i was home so long. I wasn't too happy about that because you shouldn't tempt fate. Apparently the mothers would think the holiday was too long. But if my ma was really ill I wouldn't just go home for 3 weeks. In my mind not a very good excuse. |
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