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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: What did they put in the water in British Colombia? |
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Just read this off the wires and, I was, well, stunned.
By JEREMY HAINSWORTH, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 30 minutes ago
NEW WESTMINSTER, British Columbia - A Canadian pig farmer confessed to killing 49 women and was caught before he could reach his goal of making it an even 50, prosecutors told jurors at the start of his murder trial Monday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070123/ap_on_re_ca/canada_serial_killer
Just an awful tragedy. Don't know what to make of it. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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I always like when Canadians like to paint this kind of stuff as "American style violence".
The farm made sausage. At some point they did DNA testing on the sausage grinder. They didn't say what they found. But a gun strapped to a dildo? Dude. I can't wait to find out what the sausage maker tests showed. I'm sure it might make some people sick. The whole thing smacks of Motel Hell:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motel_Hell
Or maybe Sweeney Todd for you more erudite people:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweeney_Todd |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Location: Eungam Loop
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
I always like when Canadians like to paint this kind of stuff as "American style violence".
The farm made sausage. At some point they did DNA testing on the sausage grinder. They didn't say what they found. But a gun strapped to a dildo? Dude. I can't wait to find out what the sausage maker tests showed. I'm sure it might make some people sick. The whole thing smacks of Motel Hell:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motel_Hell
Or maybe Sweeney Todd for you more erudite people:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweeney_Todd |
Its not only Canadians who talk about "American Violence." A few years ago there were some school shootings in Germany, and chancellor Scrhoeder made some comment about American violence.
That was pretty rich coming from Germany- the most violent country of the last century. |
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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: |
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I dunno about the water, but in the Lower East Side Vancouver where Picton found his victims, they certainly do use a lot of crack, smack, meth, and booze. People there are so used to having their friends disappear, the evil scumbag got away with it for like TEN YEARS. Also, the cops kind of got their hands full as it is, and didn't really get going on the whole "gee, where's all the streetwalkers disappearing to?" question until the body count was upwards of THIRTY.
Similar thing in India right now.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6222289.stm
"what a world, what a world," as the Wicked Witch of the East said. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Why is this news now? How many years old is it?
The guy is definitely a Canadian-style serial killer. Our serial killers are pig farmers, and American serial killers are the sophisticated genius sociopaths. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Why is this news now? How many years old is it?
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Errr it's finally gone to trial? So... errr it's current news? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| The trial may be a current event but the whole thing happened several years ago. Is this really the first you've heard of it? |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Dude, it is front page news on every paper in Canada today. The crown revealed things about the crime scene and the investigation that people didn't know yet. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| The trial may be a current event but the whole thing happened several years ago. Is this really the first you've heard of it? |
Weak. |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in BC right now and it was Day 1 of the trial yesterday. Huge news. Lots of evidence being presented in horrifying detail. Fortunately the media is doing a good job of humanizing the victims, who were treated even by the police as second-rate and unworthy of much investigation. I've tried to avoid the coverage but my grandfather is hard of hearing and listens to the news, so I got hours and hours of it anyway.
It's grisly and so very sad. That "American-style" stuff is bollocks though, and this is the first I've heard of it. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
I'm in BC right now and it was Day 1 of the trial yesterday. Huge news. Lots of evidence being presented in horrifying detail. Fortunately the media is doing a good job of humanizing the victims, who were treated even by the police as second-rate and unworthy of much investigation. I've tried to avoid the coverage but my grandfather is hard of hearing and listens to the news, so I got hours and hours of it anyway.
It's grisly and so very sad. That "American-style" stuff is bollocks though, and this is the first I've heard of it. |
True no one has labeled this as an "american style" killing. However, in times past people tend to label mass murder as American style. I hope Canada has come to accept Canada the good is capable of mass murder and it's not something peculiar to America.
That said, the dude sawed the women's skulls in half and put their hands in the skulls? Man. |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
True no one has labeled this as an "american style" killing. However, in times past people tend to label mass murder as American style. I hope Canada has come to accept Canada the good is capable of mass murder and it's not something peculiar to America.
That said, the dude sawed the women's skulls in half and put their hands in the skulls? Man. |
Of course we have. Everyone remembers Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo.
Here are some more they might not remember.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Canadian_serial_killers |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Eek! Speaking of BC serial killers, the "Happy Face Killer" Keith Hunter Jespers was born here, and Gilbert Paul Jordan committed many of his murders here (he's out of jail now and last seen in Winnipeg )
Clifford Olsen worked in the very neighbourhood I was staying in with my grandfather, and tended to prey on kids. Oy. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Gilbert Paul Jordan committed many of his murders here (he's out of jail now and last seen in Winnipeg ) |
I didn't know who that was, so I read the wiki.
1931-2006
Known as the "Boozing Barber", Gilbert Paul Jordan (b. December 12, 1931 d. July 7, 2006) was a Canadian serial killer who is believed to have committed the so-called "alcohol murders" in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Paul_Jordan |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
Gilbert Paul Jordan committed many of his murders here (he's out of jail now and last seen in Winnipeg ) |
I didn't know who that was, so I read the wiki.
1931-2006
Known as the "Boozing Barber", Gilbert Paul Jordan (b. December 12, 1931 d. July 7, 2006) was a Canadian serial killer who is believed to have committed the so-called "alcohol murders" in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Paul_Jordan |
Well, that's a relief. As for the poor reading skills, that's apparently what I get for reading about serial killers before 8 o'clock in the morning. |
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