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waltjocketty
Joined: 09 Oct 2006
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 Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: Mickey Dee's Breakfasts are Back!! |
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| That's right. The La Festa McDonald's is advertising pancakes and egg McMuffins and the whole lot. Get ready, folks!! |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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how long before bippitybop chimes in with something clever like 'muck fcdonald's'?
yeah. we've got the breakfasts in gimpo too. happy times. |
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stumptown
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| endofthewor1d wrote: |
how long before bippitybop chimes in with something clever like 'muck fcdonald's'?
yeah. we've got the breakfasts in gimpo too. happy times. |
bibbitybop is a punk-assed bee-yotch.
Those sausage Mcmuffins rule!!! Too bad La Festa lost King's Tacos though. Stupid Koreans |
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jlb
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I had some Mcdonalds breakfast in Cheonan last weekend. It was a bit dissapointing. As I was eating it, I thought that I could be making my own tastier stuff at home for cheaper. |
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goodgood
Joined: 22 Nov 2006
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, just got it- wasn't as magical as I remembered it. Not that great at all really. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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endoftheworld
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| how long before bippitybop chimes in with something clever like 'muck fcdonald's'? |
It's Bibbitybop. How about "uckfay onald'smcday"? That's a good one.
stumptown
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| bibbitybop is a punk-assed bee-yotch |
Yeah, he calls out businesses on bad practices. What a bee-yotch, paying attention to society.
I was going to leave this alone from now on as my point was previously made, but if you want it, "have it your way."
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On Corporate Responsibility: A Ronald McDonald Fantasy
by Paul Hawken
McDonald's April 14 "Report on Corporate Social Responsibility" is a low- water mark for the concept of sustainability and the promise of corporate social responsibility. It is a melange of generalities and soft assurances that do not provide hard metrics of the company, its activities or its impacts on society and the environment.
While movements toward corporate transparency and disclosure are to be applauded, there is little of either in the report.
This is not a report about stakeholder rights, as McDonald's would have one believe. It is a report about how a corporation that's been severely stung by bad publicity, poor service and declining earnings now wants to plead its case to its critics. It states that critics don't want to make things better, but it ignores what their critics care about.
The McDonald's Social Responsibility Report presupposes that we can continue to have a global chain of restaurants that serves fried, sugary junk food produced by an agricultural system of monocultures, monopolies, standardization and destruction, and at the same time find a path to sustainability. Having worked in the field of sustainability and business for three decades, I can reasonably say that nothing could be further from the idea of sustainability than the McDonald's Corp.
The report states, "being a socially responsible leader begins a process that involves more awareness on the issues that will make a difference." Yet the company has known for decades that the food it serves harms people, promotes obesity, heart disease and has detrimental effects on land and water. On May 1, the Centers for Disease Control issued a report stating that childhood obesity and related diseases had doubled in the past 10 years, specifically citing high-fat fast-food as a cause. Addressing that one issue would make a difference.
McDonald's has known about the harmful effects of its food just as the tobacco companies understood the impact of their products. Yet McDonald's has done little to modify its menu.
It is good to see ideas about materials and reduced waste being promoted by major corporations. But it is equally important to distinguish among corporations that offer progressive rhetoric but don't change their internal practices or impact on society and the environment and those that actually do. If corporations can make more money by using less stuff, less waste, less pollution, so much the better. To be sure, McDonald's has made progress on recycling, but the underlying nature of its corporate activity has not changed and the larger impact of these underlying activities is dramatic and troubling.
For McDonald's to announce that it now wants to have antibiotic free chickens is a slap in the face to the thousands of small poultry farmers who could not compete and were forced out of business by the agricorporations that introduced the very industrial chicken-raising practices that required antibiotics to avoid massive die-off of their flocks. Simply stated, standardized food destroys agricultural and biological diversity. Nothing could be more antithetical to the recovery of over-stressed farmlands than fast-food.
It is important that good housekeeping practices such as recycled hamburger shells not be confused with creating a just and sustainable world. McDonald's publicly embraces "sustainability" as long as it can make money and it doesn't change its purpose, which is to grow faster than the overall world economy and population, and to increase their share of the world's economic output to the benefit of a small number of shareholders.
The question we have to ask is: "What is enough for McDonald's? Is it enough that 1 in 5 meals in the United States is a fast-food meal? Does McDonald's want to see the rest of the world drink the equivalent of 597 cans of soda pop a year, as do Americans? Do they think every third global meal should be comprised of greasy meat, fries, and caramelized sugar? They won't answer those questions because that is exactly their corporate mission.
A valid report on sustainability and social responsibility must ask the question: What if everybody did it? What would be the ecological footprint -- the impact on the natural world -- of such a company? What is McDonald's footprint now?
The report carefully avoids the corporation's real environmental impacts. It talked about water use at the outlets, but failed to note that every quarter-pounder requires 600 gallons of water. It talked about recycled paper, but not the pfisteria-infected waters caused by large-scale pork producers in the Southeast United States. It talked about energy use in the restaurants, but not in the unsustainable food system McDonald's relies on that uses 10 calories of energy for every calorie of food produced.
An honest report would tell stakeholders how much it truly costs society to support a corporation like McDonald's. It would detail the externalities -- the societal and environmental costs not counted in corporate annual reports and accounting documents -- borne by other people, places and generations.
Unless the core values of the company are to nourish and protect children, you cannot make the supply chain sustainable because the final outcome is destructive to life. McDonald's corporate initiative is best described by the poet Henry Thoreau: "Improved means to an unimproved end."
McDonald's view McDonald's Corp. was invited to comment on its report but declined the offer. To read the report yourself, click on http://www.mcdonalds.com/corporate/social/report/index.html
McDonald's factoids
1. McDonald's spends more on advertising than any other brand in the world.
2. It runs more playgrounds than any other private entity in the world.
3. It gives away more toys than any other private entity in the world.
4. The Golden Arches are more widely known in the world today than the Christian cross.
5. Ray Kroc, the founder of McDonald's said this: "We have found that we cannot trust some people who are nonconformists. We will make conformists out of them in a hurry. The organization cannot trust the individual; the individual must trust the organization."
6. The vast majority of workers at McDonald's lack full-time employment, do not have any benefits, have no or little control over their workplace, and quit after a few months.
7. The average American now consumes three hamburgers and four orders of french fries per week.
8. Due in part to the industrialization of agriculture driven by the fast- food industry, the United States is losing farmers so fast that it now has more prisoners than farmers.
9. Every month, 90 percent of the children between 3 and 9 in America visit a McDonald's.
10. In a survey of 9 and 10-year-olds, half of them said they thought that Ronald McDonald knew best what kids should eat. In China, kids said that Ronald McDonald was kind, funny, gentle and understood children's hearts.
11. McDonald's uses a computer program called Quintillion that uses satellite imagery, GPS maps and demographic tables to automatically site new restaurants. As one observer noted, McDonald's uses the same equipment developed during the Cold War to spy on their customers.
12. McDonald's jobs have been purposely de-skilled so as to be able to hire minimum-wage workers on an interchangeable basis. One-third of fast-food workers speak no English.
13. McDonald's and other chains are aiming for automated equipment that will require zero training and are nearly there. Nevertheless, they fight hard to retain hundreds of millions of dollars of government subsidies for "training" their workers. A worker has only to work for 400 hours for the chain to receive its $2,400 subsidy. In essence, the American taxpayer subsidizes low wages, automation and turnover at fast-food chains.
14. Fast-food pays a higher proportion of minimum wage to its workers than any other industry in America.
15. McDonald's is the largest purchaser of beef in the world.
16. McDonald's buys from five large meatpackers. These companies have gained a stranglehold over the industry (just as in potatoes) that has driven down prices. Over the past 20 years, 500,000 cattle ranchers have gone out of business. Over that time, the rancher's share of every beef dollar has fallen from 63 cents to 46 cents.
17. To satisfy and take advantage of the worldwide growth of fast-food, the large chicken and beef packers in the United States are buying out local companies all around the world. Cargill, IBP and Tyson's control the world meat industry because of fast-food chains.
18. Chicken McNuggets were also cooked in beef tallow until public outrage caused McDonald's to stop. Even in vegetable oil, Chicken McNuggets contain twice the fat per ounce as a hamburger.
19. Every time you eat a hamburger, you are eating anabolic steroids, antibiotics and fecal matter. You can read it again. And it will still be true.
20. Feedlot cattle are also given shredded packaging, cardboard boxes, cement and sawdust to put on weight.
21. In 1991, only four states had obesity rates of 15 percent or higher. Today, 37 states do. Fifty million Americans are obese or super obese. Obesity is second only to smoking as a cause of mortality in America today.
22. The annual health costs to America stemming from obesity are $240 billion. The costs are exactly double fast-food chain revenues.
23. Between 1984 and 1993, the number of fast-food restaurants doubled in Great Britain. Obesity doubled there over the same period.
24. The EU found that 95 percent of the ads there encouraged kids to eat foods high in sugar, salt and fat. The company running the most ads aimed at children was McDonald's.
Source: Eric Schlosser's "Fast Food Nation," (Houghton Mifflin, 2001). The book is extensively footnoted with citations for the above.
Paul Hawken is the author of "The Ecology of Commerce and Natural Capitalism." He is the founder of the Sausalito-based Natural Capital Institute and is on the advisory board of Food First/Institute for Food and Development Policy in Oakland. |
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stumptown
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| Never have I seen a bee-yotch that is so self important as you bibbityblop |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| You're funny, stumptown. Enjoy the McD's. |
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b_canadian_eh
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| When I walked in and saw it advertised I couldn't believe my lucky stars. Nothing there is as good as a sausage egg McMuffin! |
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Nice avatar. |
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Voyeur
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:00 am Post subject: |
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| Their breakfast was sweet - however the McMuffins seemed a bit junior sized compared to back home. No problem, ate 2. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:23 am Post subject: |
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I Like Mickey D's. Several reasons come to mind.
1. When U walk in the door I generally know what is available. Countries and areas differ a litte but it does't tak much time to learn.
2. I know how much it is going to cost. This does differ from country to country. On of my biggest surpises, when I figured it out, was the standard little hamburger. Canada was selling them for 89 cents at the time, Korea was 1000 Won. In England it was 99 pence. Then I figure that 99 pence was just about $2.15 Canadian.
3. The qualitiy is not the best but it is good and again dependable
4. It is usually clean and quick. There are no snootey waiters giving me evil looks if I finish my paper while sitting there.
5. They almost always have parking in North America.
This sentance from the report is a kicker:
"The McDonald's Social Responsibility Report presupposes that we can continue to have a global chain of restaurants that serves fried, sugary junk food produced by an agricultural system of monocultures, monopolies, standardization and destruction, and at the same time find a path to sustainability.
Spare me the politically correct, Kyotoholic, claptrap. |
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PimpofKorea
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| so many McD's haters on Dave's its ridiculous...they're aint nothing wrong with throwing a burger down your throat from time to time.... |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| I am not a big fan of McDonalds, but I do like the breakfast. I am glad to have it. I do like the taste of the Big Mac sandwich, but I feel there is something in the burger that kind of makes me kind of zone out or something:) |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:16 am Post subject: |
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To appease the masses of people who take my dislike of McDonald's personally, I'm now giving you something to look forward to during your next visa run in Japan.
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20070125p2a00m0na005000c.html
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McDonald's Japan limits sales of popular Mega Mac due to low stocks
The popular Mega Mac hamburger.
McDonald's Japan has been forced to limit sales of its new Mega Mac hamburger to counter low stocks resulting from its huge popularity.
Customers who have been unable to buy the 350 yen hamburgers due to a shortage of stocks are being handed coupons enabling them to buy them next time for 190 yen. The company had planned to sell the hamburgers until Feb. 4, but it is now planning to extend the sales period for at least one week because of their popularity.
The Mega Mac hamburger went on sale in Japan on Jan. 12. It contains four meat patties -- twice the number of a regular Big Mac. In the first four days after it went on sale, about 3.32 million of the burgers were sold, doubling the company's expectations.
Fearing that it would not be able to keep up with demand, the company began limiting the daily number of Mega Macs sold at its stores, from several dozen per day to several hundred per day, depending on the store. It is rare for the company to limit sales of a product.
Following the introduction of the measure, lines have continued to form outside some stores in the heart of Tokyo before opening time, and some restaurants in the chain say they are selling out of the burgers before noon.
Each Mega Mac contains 754 kilocalories of nutritional energy, and the popularity of the hamburger exceeded the restaurant chain's expectations.
"It's the first time that we've had a shortage of a hamburger," a company representative said. "I guess the convenience of being able to hold a decent meal in one hand has gotten the thumbs-up, especially from young men." |
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