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| Which secret organization is MOST likely to succeed in taking over the world? |
| The Knights Templar |
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5% |
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| Rosicrucians |
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5% |
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| The Masons |
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17% |
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| The International Jewish Conspiracy (Elders of Zion branch) |
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29% |
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| The Bolsheviks |
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11% |
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| The CIA |
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29% |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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The Korean CIA?   |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Well, how would you say that S&B differs from a fraternity? |
Former CIA Deputy Director for Plans and Yalie Richard M. Bissell, Jr. refers to Skull & Bones in his memoirs as "a secret society" and not "a fraternity." But in The Good Shepherd, De Niro, who plays Donovan, calls it "a fraternity." (This is really as far as I have looked into Skull & Bones. Perhaps arguing the issue whether it is one or the other is drawing distinctions without differences.)
Interesting story on Skull & Bones:
Apparently, Skull & Bones members tap you on your shoulder and command you "go to your room." If you go to your room, then you accept membership. And that is how it works.
Bissell had nothing but scorn for secret socieities, including Skull & Bones. Its recruiters made overtures to Bissell. He ignored them. They came to his room, tapped him on his shoulder while he was studying and said "go to your room." He responded something like I am already in my room, jackass. And they left.
But he did not leave them. He reverse-recruited. I believe he persuaded either one of the Rostow brothers or one of the Bundy brothers not to accept the invitation, either. It is in his memoirs.
In any case, I suspect and dislike secret socieities, too. Why could W. Bush or Kerry just say look, I am a bonesman and we keep our affairs secret but I assure you I will be my own man in the Oval Office when asked about it in 2004...?
However this may be, Skull & Bones never had such as strangle-hold over the Agency's affairs as conspiracy-theorists typically assert. Here is a partial list of significant former OSS/CIA executives, too, who did not come from Skull & Bones...
William J. Donovan
Allen W. Dulles
Richard M. Helms
J. Caldwell King
William King Harvey
Richard M. Bissell, Jr.
David Atlee Phillips
William J. Casey |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: ... |
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I suppose it would qualify as a fraternity in a classical sense, as in back when fraternities were secret societies rather than more socially oriented organizations.
When you think about it, S+B would appear to function in a similar fashion to Phi Beta Kappa, just a bit more sinster. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| The Origamists. |
Welcome to The Fold. |
LOL! |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| But in The Good Shepherd, De Niro, who plays Donovan, calls it "a fraternity." |
Yeah, and the initiation rituals portrayed in that film certainly had a whiff of the frathouse about them. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Skull & Bones sounds like the pirate fantasy of adolescents turned college fraternity gone global. Reminds me of the accidentally spawned secret plan of Eco's Foucault's Pendulum. "It was just a lark, a computer fiction. Now no one believes me and it can't be stopped."
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| You all seem to know more about this than I do, which makes me wonder if bucheon bum, alffy, Big_Bird, Nowhere Man, On the other hand, VanIslander, cbclark4, and Gopher aren't all in on it, one way or another. |
If Gopher and I are in any organization together it's news to me. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| If Gopher and I are in any organization together it's news to me. |
The fact that you deny it lends credence to the suspicion.
And now that suspicion has raised it's ugly little head, I want to mention that it is highly suspicious that igotthisguitar and regicide are suspiciously absent from this thread, which leads me to wonder: Which of you who have posted are really igotthisguitar and/or regicide in sock form?
Hmmmm...? Could it be that you are not who you so ingeniously claim to be? Inquiring minds want to know.
[I have a reason for these suspicions and these questions.] |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: ... |
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Perhaps a commission should be established to investigate. |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| The Origamists. |
Welcome to The Fold. |
Seriously.
WTC ORIGAMI |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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You guys have it all wrong. Its small greys, the aliens from somewhere.
That book has an interesting author. His name is Marrs. He's one them. My heavens we are all doomed. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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You guys have it all wrong. Its small greys, the aliens from somewhere.
That book has an interesting author. His name is Marrs. He's one them. My heavens we are all doomed. |
His name is Marrs therefore he's a martian? Ho-ho-ho ...
Lemmee guess, you're a freemason, right? |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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guitar:
No even close. By ancestry I'm a Jew by choice I'm a Mormon.
Have you heard that the idea of zero population growth is a Mormon conspiracy. Everyone else quits having children. We continue to have lots. Pretty soon lots of us and none of them!
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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I suspect that the OP has a hidden agenda, reflected by his choice of putting Bolshevik on his list instead of the still formidable KGB.
Recent high-tech assassinations of their enemies, and reported frame-ups making it look like Moslems perpetrated terrorist acts, in fact plotted by Putin's old comrades, suggests to me that they still pose a world threat.
Moreover, the steadily rising trend toward atheism and scientific materialism throughout Europe and even in America plays into their plans to implement and export a new brand of materialistic communism (which figures to be just as corrupt as ever...) |
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