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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:42 pm    Post subject: American Tax Question -- Help Please Reply with quote

My father is filing my taxes for me back home. He's using a computer tax program which won't allow my tax information to SEND because it has issues with my current situation.

Yes, the American tax code says that if I stay in Korea for nearly a year (I can't remember the exact days) I don't have to pay taxes on the earned income here for something like the first $70,000 or $80,000. The problem is that I started working in May, so for the calendar year, I haven't actually been in Korea a full year.

Do I have to report the days I worked in 2002 (which are less than one year) and be taxed on those??? Or do I wait until I return to report it all income?

Thanks!
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:45 pm    Post subject: Re: American Tax Question -- Help Please Reply with quote

As far as I understand, you are exempt from paying taxes on your foreign income for up to $70,000, so you shouldn't have to pay tax on that. Any money you made back in the states before you came to Korea in May is taxable, but only if you made a certain amount. I'm not sure how much, I think it's around $7000. If you make less than that in a year, you don't have to file. So unless you made more than about $7000 during January-April, then you don't have to file. But you have to file for your foreign income exemption (for May-December), but you won't owe anything unless you made more than $70,000.

But you might want to double check that with a tax authority. You really shouldn't take the word of English teachers on this matter. Ask someone who specializes in this kind of thing.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually,

I believe you are only exempt from American tax if you are out of the country 330 days or so. So, you may not be exempt at all and have to be taxed on everything. Call HR Block in Korea. I saw an ad in the Korea Herald. Don't ask us amateurs.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the other two guys are right: don't trust amateurs like English teachers...but they are also right about this-- You will be taxed only on your earnings for Jan. to whenever you came here. It will be very little or nothing.
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keguri



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL

PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called the IRS last week to ask about the rules on paying tax on income earned outside the U.S., especially in South Korea. I had to leave a message so that a specialist could call me back (she called 4 days later). She told me that For the first 2 years, I do not have to pay tax on my foreign-earned income, but she said I would still have to file. She said "You always have to file." What she told me to do is to get the form I would need online (www.irs.gov), and write down the amount I earned, and then under "exemptions" write that same amount (as a negative)... adding up to "zero taxable income." She also said that the U.S. has a deal with Korea and that we are not supposed to pay taxes to them (the Korean gov) for the first 2 years. This makes absolutely no sense to me, however, that neither government would want my tax money. Either I misunderstood what she said, or she was wrong. I don't know. The whole thing is too confusing. The only thing I know of for sure is that you should not have to pay taxes to both the U.S. gov and Korean gov. I agree with the above posters that you should contact a professional or call the IRS and ask them to help you with your specific situation.
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kateinkorea



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just in the process of learning all this for the Canadian prespective. It doesn't sound like it is so different in some ways.


The deal as I understand it between Canada and S. Korea is that as long as you are paying taxes in another country you are establishing residency ties there and therefore do not have to be considered a resident in Canada and don't have to pay taxes.



Kate
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Crazy Oz



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Ilsan, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't come to grief with the Oz tax man, it hurts. They specify 6months minimum out of the country otherwise you pay tax in BOTH countries. Got burned a couple of years ago Evil or Very Mad
As for the US I've heard 330 days bandied around quite a lot...that is continuous days outside the US or its Territories no holidays back home). Check it out really well otherwise ....ouch.
Foreigners are apparently exempt from full taxation in Korea for the first 2 years. This is most probably due to the fact that your own soil will rip the best bits off you.


Still crazy, still here (and renewing).
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morue



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 7:18 am    Post subject: taxes Reply with quote

I am currently trying to figure this all out. I spoke with a man at the H&R Block here in Seoul. I came to Korea in April and if I stay here for 330 full days out of any 365 day period, I don't have to pay taxes on income under $80,000. I made a few thousand dollars before I came here but it was minimal and I will be exempt from paying taxes on that money too. Being overseas, we qualify for an extension, file before June 1. SO I would wait until you have been here for a full 330 days and then file and you wont have any worries. Good luck!
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 5:49 pm    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Thanks, you have all been very helpful.
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JaquanQuentinJackson



Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have to be in Korea for 330+ days or just outside of America?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JaquanQuentinJackson wrote:
Do you have to be in Korea for 330+ days or just outside of America?


I think outside of America.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: taxes Reply with quote

morue wrote:
I am currently trying to figure this all out. I spoke with a man at the H&R Block here in Seoul. I came to Korea in April and if I stay here for 330 full days out of any 365 day period, I don't have to pay taxes on income under $80,000. I made a few thousand dollars before I came here but it was minimal and I will be exempt from paying taxes on that money too. Being overseas, we qualify for an extension, file before June 1. SO I would wait until you have been here for a full 330 days and then file and you wont have any worries. Good luck!


The IRS woman told me that I can file for an extension, or I can file at the normal time and then file an ammended return later to get my money back.

See this thread:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=66667&highlight=


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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I think outside of America.


"I THINK"
That means- I ASSUME-

Get it from the source- the IRS- and not from morons on an anonymous board that probably have only had mommy and daddy file their taxes for them.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't screw with the tax man. If you haven't been here 11 months, you have to declare everything you earned -- your American and korean earned income. There is a line on the tax form for other earned income for which you don't have w-2 (or is it w-4) for.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
Don't screw with the tax man. If you haven't been here 11 months, you have to declare everything you earned -- your American and korean earned income. There is a line on the tax form for other earned income for which you don't have w-2 (or is it w-4) for.


By claim do you mean report?
Even after you've met the 330 day requirement you still have to report everything. You just get to claim an exemption for the foreign income.

On the other hand if you don't claim exempt income I doubt you would get in much trouble because the tax owed is the same. To be safe I will report it and then claim the exemption. -Jeff
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