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Gopher
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| Jesus, that was painful. A total wallow in the utter dregs of humanity. And people manage to sit through multiple hours of this on Big Brother? |
Just browsing this thread out of sheer boredom.
I watched this clip and had the same reaction. By the way, what the hell language was that...?  |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesus, that was painful. A total wallow in the utter dregs of humanity. And people manage to sit through multiple hours of this on Big Brother? |
Just browsing this thread out of sheer boredom.
I watched this clip and had the same reaction. By the way, what the hell language was that...? |
Laandon.
Vey wus tawkin abaat Big Brava, awoight?
Stupit banch o' barstuds, innit? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
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| Jesus, that was painful. A total wallow in the utter dregs of humanity. And people manage to sit through multiple hours of this on Big Brother? |
Just browsing this thread out of sheer boredom.
I watched this clip and had the same reaction. By the way, what the hell language was that...? |
Laandon.
Vey wus tawkin abaat Big Brava, awoight?
Stupit banch o' barstuds, innit? |
uvverwise knaan as Cockney, innit. Cor blimey Spin, you don't 'arf speak it we(swallowed ll s) mate. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| Jesus, that was painful. A total wallow in the utter dregs of humanity. |
I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think she's basically been pilloried for being working class and inarticulate...which I think is a nasty reason to mock anyone. She does pretty much admit that she resorted to nasty names because that's the only way she's ever seen others argue...that's the only way she knows how to resort to defending herself...which is probably true. If she'd been born into the middle classes, she might have had a proper education and been given more 'tools' to argue with. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:50 am Post subject: |
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From Wiki
"Goody's grandfather Winston Coyne came to Great Britain from the West Indies in 1956. He worked for London Transport and met Jacqueline Goody at a party two years later. In 1961 their first child Ingrid was born, followed in 1963 by Jade's father Andrew. When the children were still little, Winston left to live with his family in New York. He kept in touch, but two years after leaving was killed in a road accident. Andrew met Jackiey Budden, when he was 16 and she was 21.[2]
Jade Goody was born in 1981 in Bermondsey, London. Her parents had an on-off relationship and had split for good by the time Jade was a toddler. When she was five, Goody appeared in the pilot episode of ITV's London's Burning (sometimes referred to as the 'Telemovie' episode).[3] Interviews with some of her high school classmates have revealed accusations of bullying when Jade was younger, with Goody expelled from Bacon's College, Rotherhithe, after biting part of the ear off one of her fellow classmates.[4] Goody worked as a dental nurse before coming to public attention in 2002 when she was a contestant in the third series of the UK version of Big Brother.
Andrew Goody died of a heroin overdose in 2005 at the age of 42.[5] He was found slumped in the toilets at a KFC restaurant in Bournemouth, and police made first contact with Jade as his next of kin. But she did not tell the rest of her family of his death or attend his funeral.[6]"
We've found our English Rose. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| Jesus, that was painful. A total wallow in the utter dregs of humanity. |
I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think she's basically been pilloried for being working class and inarticulate...which I think is a nasty reason to mock anyone. She does pretty much admit that she resorted to nasty names because that's the only way she's ever seen others argue...that's the only way she knows how to resort to defending herself...which is probably true. If she'd been born into the middle classes, she might have had a proper education and been given more 'tools' to argue with. |
I dunno. I know some guys who would probably qualify as working-class, never been to university(or even graduated high school in some cases), and they're able to string an argument together without resorting to nasty names. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Further to BigBird's point...
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Goody worked as a dental nurse before coming to public attention in 2002 when she was a contestant in the third series of the UK version of Big Brother.
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What are the qualifications to become a "dental nurse" in the UK? Wouldn't it require at least a smattering of what might be called "a proper education"? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Further to BigBird's point...
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Goody worked as a dental nurse before coming to public attention in 2002 when she was a contestant in the third series of the UK version of Big Brother.
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What are the qualifications to become a "dental nurse" in the UK? Wouldn't it require at least a smattering of what might be called "a proper education"? |
I think it used to simply entail an apprenticeship - perhaps recently this has changed.. It certainly doesn't require studying subjects like philosophy or critical thinking. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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I dunno. I know some guys who would probably qualify as working-class, never been to university(or even graduated high school in some cases), and they're able to string an argument together without resorting to nasty names. |
Sure, but on the otherhand I've known plenty of working class people who, while intelligent, were not articulate. This is something that can be learnt, but often isn't. And if you grew up in an environment where you weren't exposed to reasoned debate, or where people won arguments simply by being nastier than than their opponent, you might find yourself struggling to deal with your differences civilly. |
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newintown
Joined: 01 Jan 2007
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i am a self confessed BB addict, but that was EXCRUCIATING  |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: |
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I dunno. I know some guys who would probably qualify as working-class, never been to university(or even graduated high school in some cases), and they're able to string an argument together without resorting to nasty names. |
Sure, but on the otherhand I've known plenty of working class people who, while intelligent, were not articulate. This is something that can be learnt, but often isn't. And if you grew up in an environment where you weren't exposed to reasoned debate, or where people won arguments simply by being nastier than than their opponent, you might find yourself struggling to deal with your differences civilly. |
Daves is a good example.Most eslers on daves are working class or lower. Workingworking class. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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Update on Jade Goody (the infamous Big Brother contestant).
Just came across this: Jade and Jack spend 'their only night together' after ceremony full of laughter and tears
She's back in the headlines, now dying of cancer, with just weeks to live. She's arranged a huge celebrity wedding so that she can make a small fortune from the media to pass on to her small kids. Rather sad. Her husband is a felon and under some sort of night curfew, and they'll apparantly never spend another night together.
Here from The Guardian:
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After an adult life spent actively courting the media, Jade Goody, the terminally ill reality television star, retreated behind an impenetrable barrier of security yesterday to marry her fiance at a country house hotel in Essex.
The 27-year-old, who fears she may have only weeks to live after doctors diagnosed that cervical cancer had spread aggressively to other organs, married Jack Tweed at a ceremony hidden in the 110-acre grounds of the Down Hall hotel, in Hatfield Heath, all 99 bedrooms of which had been booked by the wedding party.
The television cameras which have followed Goody since the former dental nurse gained fame with an appearance on Big Brother in 2002 were banished to the end of the long hotel drive, far out of sight of the building itself.
It was not, of course, a proper retreat into privacy, but a media deal under which Goody will make an estimated �1m selling exclusive coverage rights to the celebrity magazine OK! and a satellite television channel, money she hopes will secure the future of her two young sons.
It was left to Max Clifford, the publicity agent handling the last, frenetic months of Goody's life, to pass on some limited news to the crowd of reporters, wellwishers and curious passers by who waited outside the hotel grounds.
He said the bride, who is on constant pain medication, had managed to stand for most of the 45-minute service, but slipped off her shoes because her feet were hurting and asked for a chair to rest during the final minutes. As the couple signed the marriage certificate, Jade's sons climbed on to her lap. Ten white doves were released.
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Although she finished only fourth in Big Brother and attracted press mockery for her appearance and supposed ignorance, clever marketing and a natural, unforced manner helped her earn large sums from public appearances. Five years later, during a celebrity edition of Big Brother, her public image seemed all but destroyed when she joined racially tinged bullying of the Indian film star Shilpa Shetty.
But her latest actions have brought praise, with cancer charities noting an increase in younger women booking screening tests.
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