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mindmetoo
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 Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: Uri Geller bad sleight of hand |
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Uri Geller is of course a sleight of hand artist that passes off common magic tricks as psychic ability. It's amazing anyone takes him seriously these days. But he appears to be getting very sloppy in his old age. Here he claims to move a compass by his super psychic ability. I guess they got the camera angles mixed up because you can see him place a flesh colored magnet thimble on his thumb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg2oY-OWcy4
(This video will probably get yanked soon.)
The flesh colored thumb is a basic magic prop, usually used to make a cloth vanish:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYR6ZN_BppY
Notice the thumb is always the last thing used to push the cloth into the hand. It's actually being pushed into the fake thumb.
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Uri Geller bad slight of hand |
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Uri Geller is a con artist. He made a well publicised appearance in Korea a long time ago ('80s?) and everyone still remembers. A lot of Koreans probably still believe he is a psychic.
Here's James Randi talking about Geller.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9w7jHYriFo |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/articles/montel_shawnhornbeck.shtml
Another psychic bites it on TV. Ah tell the parents their kid is dead when he's alive. Ah waste police time searching. This woman has to know she's fulla crap and just likes to prey upon people who have lost a loved one. Here's a great example:
http://badpsychics.com/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=169
The look on the family's face would be priceless when up front Sylvia was 100% wrong if it weren't for the fact they were already suffering from the loss of their daughter.
Her comment regarding people actually daring to call her fulla crap:
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| Throughout history there have always been psychics and skeptics. I am the first to caution everyone when dealing with those who claim to have paranormal ability and then bilk people to remove curses or bring back lost loves through potions or incantations. I have never nor ever will charge anyone who seeks my help regarding a missing person or homicide. In these cases I choose to work strictly with law enforcement agencies involved to aid and not impede their work and only when asked. To be accused of otherwise by James Randi and others like him is a boldface lie. The very nature of his work is negative; i.e. one that tries to disprove the very nature of spirituality. Can God be "proven" by scientific methods? If the brilliant scientists throughout history had a James Randi negating every aspect of their work, I doubt we would have progressed very far in medicine or in any technology. As I have stated on Montel, on my radio show, in my books and in each of my lectures, I cannot possibly be 100% correct in each and every one of my predictions. I have never claimed to be. Those who choose to believe in our philosophy will continue to do so because of their own convictions. Those who negate it after one human error never truly embraced our philosophy anyway and that's okay. My constant mantra is to "take with you what you want and leave the rest". God's blessings to everyone regardless of their chosen path. |
The best line in her statement:
"If the brilliant scientists throughout history had a James Randi negating every aspect of their work, I doubt we would have progressed very far in medicine or in any technology."
Actually that's exactly how science progresses. Good ideas have to pass through a gauntlet of skepticism. Wrong ideas rarely get past. Science keeps working. People don't die. Nuclear reactors don't blow up. Rockets get to the moon. New ideas are then built on proven ideas. People didn't all bow down and accept Relativity as received wisdom. It wasn't widely accepted until undeniable proof was offered. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| My wife is addicted to the TV show Medium (or Korean title, "Ghost n' Crime"). It's interesting at times, if a little melodramatic, but the fact that it's based on a woman who claims she's a successful psychic investigator makes it a little dangerous. I love the title though. It's another "Snakes on a Plane." |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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There are many fakes, quacks and con-artists in many fields. The fact that there are many fake psychics is not surprising since it can be an easy way to make money if you're clever or talented enough.
That certainly doesn't prove that there have never been people with uncommon pyschic powers (especially in ancient times ...) Many prophecies and predictions turned out to be accurate - such as the detailed prediction of Buddha's appearance ... |
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twg
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
| That certainly doesn't prove that there have never been people with uncommon pyschic powers (especially in ancient times ...) Many prophecies and predictions turned out to be accurate - such as the detailed prediction of Buddha's appearance ... |
My comic books claim the Mighty Thor is real as well. Should I believe them? I mean, they have pictures to go with their claims. |
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Rteacher
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Well, apparently you do...  |
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RACETRAITOR
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
That certainly doesn't prove that there have never been people with uncommon pyschic powers (especially in ancient times ...) Many prophecies and predictions turned out to be accurate - such as the detailed prediction of Buddha's appearance ... |
I don't know about you but I'm not willing to trust millennia-old writing that is intended to promote the guy to us. Even modern-day psychic investigators are totally unreliable because so many of them want to believe, they get fooled into giving the psychic unfair advantages.
And remember, with outrageous claims, the burden is on the person claiming to have psychic powers. How is that worded? |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
There are many fakes, quacks and con-artists in many fields. The fact that there are many fake psychics is not surprising since it can be an easy way to make money if you're clever or talented enough.
That certainly doesn't prove that there have never been people with uncommon pyschic powers (especially in ancient times ...) Many prophecies and predictions turned out to be accurate - such as the detailed prediction of Buddha's appearance ... |
That no one among those claiming such powers can ever step forward and provide evidence under controlled conditions certainly points to the safe bet. That it's clear without controlled conditions, it's simple to pass off stage magic tricks as psychic ability, the controlled conditions are required.
Better put: If every time you applied for a hagwon job you were ripped off, you would begin to question the notion that there exists, somewhere, an honest hagwon owner. Your next job, you're going to want some pretty good proof.
I'll believe in psychic power or santa when either steps forward and wins Randi's million dollar challenge. |
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Hollywoodaction
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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That would explain why his face was on the front page at Naver a couple of days ago ( I didn't bother to read the story).
Yes, Yuri Geller is still a celebrity in Korea after having made an appearance years ago (so is Cliff Richard, for that matter), which is probably why James Randi accepted to host a TV show here a few years ago. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
That would explain why his face was on the front page at Naver a couple of days ago ( I didn't bother to read the story).
Yes, Yuri Geller is still a celebrity in Korea after having made an appearance years ago (so is Cliff Richard, for that matter), which is probably why James Randi accepted to host a TV show here a few years ago. |
I remember Randi talking about that. If I recall, he generally had good things to say about the producer but at the same time the producer kind of had this view "well, of course all those OTHER psychics are liars and cheaters... but you will be surprised to find that Korea has the real psychics..." |
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Hollywoodaction
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
That would explain why his face was on the front page at Naver a couple of days ago ( I didn't bother to read the story).
Yes, Yuri Geller is still a celebrity in Korea after having made an appearance years ago (so is Cliff Richard, for that matter), which is probably why James Randi accepted to host a TV show here a few years ago. |
I remember Randi talking about that. If I recall, he generally had good things to say about the producer but at the same time the producer kind of had this view "well, of course all those OTHER psychics are liars and cheaters... but you will be surprised to find that Korea has the real psychics..." |
Funny you mention that because I remember being concerned about the fact that they didn't try to debunk any of the numerous homegrown charlatans. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: Uri Geller bad slight of hand |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Uri Geller is a con artist. He made a well publicised appearance in Korea a long time ago ('80s?) and everyone still remembers. A lot of Koreans probably still believe he is a psychic. |
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