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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Satori wrote: |
| men are like children needing to be stimulated |
Huzzah for stimulation! |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Chew em up and then spit em out, woohoo!
Those poor silly men, we eat em for breakfast
YOU WOMEN ARE MONSTERS 
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| Calm down man it's only a forum and well all be dead soon anyway. |
Im perfectly calm, what made you think otherwise? I just gave my opinion.
I agree we'll all be dead one day, and that is something I keep in the back of my mind to help me live the life I wanna lead actually, which includes not hanging with people who run games or otherwise bring down my consistantly superb buzz...  |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I agree we'll all be dead one day, and that is something I keep in the back of my mind to help me live the life I wanna lead actually, which includes not hanging with people who run games or otherwise bring down my consistantly superb buzz... |
-which is why you're in the right place man. japan..
I had 3 girlfriends there within a day on my visa run alone..K-women are a pain in the a$$ by comparison |
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PimpofKorea
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
I agree we'll all be dead one day, and that is something I keep in the back of my mind to help me live the life I wanna lead actually, which includes not hanging with people who run games or otherwise bring down my consistantly superb buzz... |
-which is why you're in the right place man. japan..
I had 3 girlfriends there within a day on my visa run alone..K-women are a pain in the a$$ by comparison |
3 girlfriends in 1 day..... man I think you should rename yourself... "PimpofJapan" together with me....we'll own East Asia!!!!! |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Howard Jones
you can look at the menu, but you just can't eat
you can feel the cushion, but you can't have a seat
you can dip your foot in the pool, but you can't have a swim
you can feel the punishment, but you can't commit the sin
and you want her, and she wants you
we want everyone
and you want her and she wants you
no one, no one, no one ever is to blame |
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Pateach
Joined: 11 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: SOme men are pigs, some men are subtle... |
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No, not all men are pigs. And not all straight men are pigs, either, since that seems to be the topic.
FYI:
We women look at other men, too, you know, just not while we are with our honey...
Timing is everything... |
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Empress Jiyong
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: The Old Motherland
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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I thought I made it crystal clear in an earlier post that men are like male dogs (raging libido, naturally aggressive and actuallly yearn for violence, territorial, premiscuous, greedy, playful, need entertainment) and women like female cats (beautiful, aloof, sly, thoroughly wicked, bltchy, mysterious and the subject of male myths, servants of Satan, graceful, worshipped somewhat, equally as clever and useful as male dogs but in different ways).
Sexist as hell, I know, but I buy it and do not envisage refutation of my beloved theory on Daves any time soon (mind you, women do not exterminate vermin which is a tiny flaw only). Sexist yes, but the worst is yet to come, as I shall totally crush conventional morality.
We assume, in our oh so enlightened times, that there is only one version of morality. It's simply wrong for males to be unfaithful, apparently. Multiple girlfriends is wrong, we are told.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're dying.
Koreans, Japanese, Germans, Canadians, Italians, Greeks, Czechs, Spaniards....are all on their way out! Low birth rates exist in every developed society except the US.
Low fertility is not politically sustainable. Women, in their desire to tame males so they can feel better, endanger civilization.
Increased opportunities for women combined with the view of morality that men should NOT sleep around and have multiple sprogs all over the show means birthrates in Hong Kong are as low as 1.0 (2.2 is the requirement to maintain levels of young working tax payers to take care of all these old buggers, who are a useless burden to society) and 30% of German women are, and will remain, childless. We need more babies. Women aren't prepared to sacrifice that dream career to sit at home and have 2.2 kids, so it's the male duty to, frankly, have as much unprotected sex with as many women as he sees fit and hope that some of them will agree to pregnancy. Avoid poor people, as girls� families are to bear much of the cost. Poor people breed like rabbits anyway � more babies amongst the affluent class are the focus!
Low fertility trends began in the 1960s, with increased opportunity and the decline of Victorian conservatism, that lasted til after WW2.
We take for granted, slavishly accept entirely uncritically, that absolute equality is the best way to organize society and also men should not obey their animal sexuality and have 7 birds on the go, one for every day of the week, when in actual fact it means extinction. |
So from what you wrote, I can see that you:
1) Equate women's intelligence and usefulness with that of dogs.
2) Resent women who don't want to procreate.
3) Believe that men should be able to sleep around, and don't need to use comdoms. Sounds great for you. (Incidently, what are your thoughts on women having multiple partners?)
4) Believe women should stay at home and that financial incentives to be barefoot and pregnant would be attractive.
I think you answered the OP's question.
One thing. What exactly is the problem if the human race dies out? It would happen over generations, so who cares. It's not likely to happen anyway looking at the growth rates in undeveloped countries. You mentioned some specific ethnic groups. Well, let me tell you. If the death of the Korean ethnicity is the price I have to pay to do what I want with my life, so be it. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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So from what you wrote, I can see that you:
1) Equate women's intelligence and usefulness with that of dogs. |
That's not what I said at all! I said men and women are equally intelligent in different ways, like cats and dogs. Dogs are rubbish at killing vermin but great at sniffing for bombs and drugs. Likewise there are some things that men are naturally more geared towards and likewise with women. Even the looniest PC monster wouldn�t dispute this, SURELY? The cats and dogs analogy is only playful, but in any case I think you've not understood it.
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2) Resent women who don't want to procreate.
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I wouldn't say resent. The developed world needs more mothers, more nurses, more teachers, more plumbers, more people who can lay a brick...and fewer lawyers, fewer journalists, fewer hair-designers, fewer call centre jockies, fewer people with degrees on the fiscal scrapheap. People need to be offered financial incentives to fill these problem areas. Were women to be offered by the state financial incentives to have a coupla kids, the option of getting preggers would - as if by magic - seem much more attractive. Women like yourself don't NOT WANT kids because working in a bank or a hagwon is the height of their ambition. They don't want kids because it's perceived as burdensome.
Just imagine....you could actually get paid for staying home and watching reality TV!
How many of us are accidental occurrences of unprotected intercourse? Most? Inside many women slaving away for poor wages in banks and corporations is an excellent mother that societies need far more. These women just don't know it yet, just like my mother didn't know she was going to be an excellent mother when she got pregnant (unplanned) and was working for a pittance for a bunch of rich lawyers.
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) Believe that men should be able to sleep around, and don't need to use comdoms. Sounds great for you. (Incidently, what are your thoughts on women having multiple partners?)
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Men do sleep around anyway. 'Should' doesn't feature....men do, it's as simple as that. Men are just wired that way. Women generally are not. Guys think nothing of having three birds on the go. Women generally do not behave in the same manner. Mind you, I'm not going to defend the hypocritical view that men may be promiscuous and women not. I don't even wish to pursue the male promiscuity issue because it's less important. Whiteys need to make more babies and we need fewer women clogging up the workforce doing crappy jobs that benefit no-one but the private sector. Tony Blair's wife is one of the most senior lawyers in Britain yet has raised 4 children. Women like her are the exception. She's a driven career woman, born for the law and a brilliant mother. The vast majority of working, childless women - under the illusion that they're doing what they want and have more choices - are simply kidding themselves.
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4) Believe women should stay at home and that financial incentives to be barefoot and pregnant would be attractive.
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Modern society: stay at home and be a mom? Er, no thanks.
Society with my reforms: stay at home, be a mom, get paid $50,000 per year by the state to do so? Where do I sign?
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| I think you answered the OP's question. |
My private views answered Otis's question "are ALL men pigs?" in the affirmative? Dear me.
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| If the death of the Korean ethnicity is the price I have to pay to do what I want with my life, so be it. |
terribly sorry to hear that doing a 9-to-5 for $30,000 per year is the height of your ambition and this was an entirely free choice. If you were on this money back home, you'd struggle to pay rent. |
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luvnpeas
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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"And I will agree that Korean girls are entertaining."
For the record, the original remark was that Korean women need to be entertained more than men, not that they are more entertaining.
There was a great This American Life piece on testosterone a few years ago. I remember it vividly, years later. They interviewed a lesbian who had started getting testosterone injections and passing as a man. They had everyone in their studio tested for testosterone levels, and a betting pool on who would score highest and lowest. There were some other stories on the same theme. The interview with the transexual was fascinating. She described in great detail how she changed once she started getting these massive injections of testosterone on a regular basis. Pre-injection, if she was sitting on the subway having a fantasy about the woman across the aisle, she thought of discussing books together and a candle-light dinner. Post-injections, she thought of hiking up the stranger's dress, and doing her right there on the (suddenly empty) subway. The injections increased her interest in science. In short, testosterone made her more aggressive, more graphic in her sexual thoughts, and more analytical. The commentator said something like "You just set back the progressive movement 20 years."
Here's a link
http://www.thislife.org/pages/descriptions/02/220.html |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: Re: SOme men are pigs, some men are subtle... |
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| Pateach wrote: |
No, not all men are pigs. And not all straight men are pigs, either, since that seems to be the topic.
FYI:
We women look at other men, too, you know, just not while we are with our honey...
Timing is everything... |
One time while I was shopping with my ex, she gave me sh it for staring at some chick. I honestly didn't know what she was talking about, and said so. Her response, "That girl looked at me and shook her head." That was about the worst bust ever. Guess I was entranced.  |
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Cerebroden
Joined: 27 Dec 2006
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hahaha...
use 'em
abuse 'em
lose 'em
and some where along the way cum in their eye  |
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Empress Jiyong
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: The Old Motherland
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| Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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So from what you wrote, I can see that you:
1) Equate women's intelligence and usefulness with that of dogs. |
The cats and dogs analogy is only playful, but in any case I think you've not understood it. |
I understood. I just don't think it's a very good analogy.
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2) Resent women who don't want to procreate.
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Women like yourself don't NOT WANT kids because working in a bank or a hagwon is the height of their ambition. They don't want kids because it's perceived as burdensome.
Just imagine....you could actually get paid for staying home and watching reality TV! |
What do you know about me? Nothing. Working in a bank or hagwon is not the height of my ambition. Even if it was, what of it? Having kids is burdensome. Pregnancy is burdensome. Raising children is something your whole life is invested in. It's a burden.
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| How many of us are accidental occurrences of unprotected intercourse? Most? Inside many women slaving away for poor wages in banks and corporations is an excellent mother that societies need far more. These women just don't know it yet, just like my mother didn't know she was going to be an excellent mother when she got pregnant (unplanned) and was working for a pittance for a bunch of rich lawyers. |
What exactly is your point here? Are you suggesting an increase in unplanned unwanted pregnancies is a good thing?
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) Believe that men should be able to sleep around, and don't need to use comdoms. Sounds great for you. (Incidently, what are your thoughts on women having multiple partners?)
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Men do sleep around anyway. 'Should' doesn't feature....men do, it's as simple as that. Men are just wired that way. Women generally are not. Guys think nothing of having three birds on the go. Women generally do not behave in the same manner. |
Women are wired to seek out the genes that best complement theirs. Men are wired to spread their gene everywhere. Different, but the outcome is more or less equal. If a women find a man who is more genetically suitable than her current boyfriend/husband, she is just as likely to get some on the side as a man. Or did you think that all cheating or promiscuous women were merely tricked into it by men?
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| Whiteys need to make more babies and we need fewer women clogging up the workforce doing crappy jobs that benefit no-one but the private sector. Tony Blair's wife is one of the most senior lawyers in Britain yet has raised 4 children. Women like her are the exception. She's a driven career woman, born for the law and a brilliant mother. The vast majority of working, childless women - under the illusion that they're doing what they want and have more choices - are simply kidding themselves. |
Why do whiteys need more babies? What does it matter if one subgroup of the human species dies out? And just how are we kidding ourselves? I'm not under any illusions. I am doing what I want, and I do have more choices. I want to do what I want when I went, without being tied to a life long commitment. Alot of men want this, is there some reason why I, and other women can't? Does my unexploited uterus preclude me from choosing how to live my own life?
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4) Believe women should stay at home and that financial incentives to be barefoot and pregnant would be attractive.
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Modern society: stay at home and be a mom? Er, no thanks.
Society with my reforms: stay at home, be a mom, get paid $50,000 per year by the state to do so? Where do I sign? |
That's a nice salary, but it's not worth the sacrifice. It's also not worth having an organism grow inside you for 9 months, then have it painfully spewed out and demand attention for god knows how many years. I don't think you can quote me a sum that would make that sound attractive.
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| I think you answered the OP's question. |
My private views answered Otis's question "are ALL men pigs?" in the affirmative? Dear me. |
I think my meaning was pretty clear pig. Not all men are pigs. But some definitely are.
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| If the death of the Korean ethnicity is the price I have to pay to do what I want with my life, so be it. |
terribly sorry to hear that doing a 9-to-5 for $30,000 per year is the height of your ambition and this was an entirely free choice. If you were on this money back home, you'd struggle to pay rent. |
How exactly are you employed? How does my sex make my choice of work different from yours? Oh what's that? Your English Teaching job isn't the height of your ambition? Well, sorry, I didn't know. You don't know me, so you can't possibly know what I want to do with my life, or anything about me for that matter.
You're right about the rent. But I live in Korea, so how is it relevant?
It's nice how your views dictate how women should live, but leave men free to do whatever the hell they want. Lucky for you that you're a man.  |
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luvnpeas
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SPINOZA
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Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Empress Jiyong
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I understood. I just don't think it's a very good analogy.
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As I said, the analogy was playful.
Sorry, however, for assuming you didn't understand. I thought that because "So from what you wrote, I can see that you:
1) Equate women's intelligence and usefulness with that of dogs" bears no relation to what I'd said, it followed that you didn't get it.
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What exactly is your point here? Are you suggesting an increase in unplanned unwanted pregnancies is a good thing?
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Most pregnancies are unwanted and unplanned. That said, many women, when they get preggers and feel a human life growing inside them, quickly fall in love with the idea. And to hold their own child in their arms for the first time is a wonderful experience, I'm sure. Many women are sure they never want kids, yet change their minds when the process accidentally starts. Unwanted pregnancies are usually unwanted because of the (usually financial) burdensome nature of having children. It's expensive and people would rather not. With a reduced reluctance to terminate unwanted pregnancies and a reduced reluctance to have children at all, we'd go some way to alleviating the social problem of low birth rates in my view.
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Women are wired to seek out the genes that best complement theirs. Men are wired to spread their gene everywhere. Different, but the outcome is more or less equal. If a women find a man who is more genetically suitable than her current boyfriend/husband, she is just as likely to get some on the side as a man.
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I don't really believe either of these statements. However, it does seem common enough to be generalizable that, to men, promiscuous sex with many different partners is appealing and it's very often acted upon. I've been observing human nature rather a lot in my 28 years and males having several partners, even when married, is not uncommon. Females doing the same is very rare and far less socially acceptable. Even if your contention (in italics) is true, male cheating is far more common, it would appear. It's hardly a flattering image of men I'm portraying here. As I've said, men are not unlike male dogs - fighting, feasting, f***ing, killing all we can.
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| Or did you think that all cheating or promiscuous women were merely tricked into it by men? |
Obviously not all, but it seems likely to me that a lot are. How many women meet a great guy and later find out she's one of numerous girlfriends or he's married? Quite common. Cheating rats. :lol The same behaviour from women is much less prevalent, surely. Or am I completely misinformed and the world is as rammed full of cheating, promiscuous girls as it is guys?
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| Why do whiteys need more babies? What does it matter if one subgroup of the human species dies out? |
These were my comments in this quite recent thread which I think you'll find interesting, Empress.
Affluent societies aren't producing enough babies. Some, like Germany and Japan, are producing far too few. On the face of it, you might think one or two fewer people in crowded countries like Japan and Germany won't do them much harm, but if that were the case, the German government would not have, since the 1970s, constantly thought up initiatives to get more German babies born (to no avail, presumably, since 30% of German women will die childless).
Smaller and falling populations, with more old people than young, is pretty f**king dire in my opinion. Rather than "dying out", low birth rates surely entail falling (and larger elderly) populations, shrinking workforces, dramatic increases in pensions and medical care. An average of 2.1 children per woman is the requirement to maintain, merely maintain current levels in the industrialized West - not 1.3 or less. In those circumstances, in just roughly two generations, the under-30 population may be reduced by 50 percent!
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That's a nice salary, but it's not worth the sacrifice. It's also not worth having an organism grow inside you for 9 months, then have it painfully spewed out and demand attention for god knows how many years. I don't think you can quote me a sum that would make that sound attractive.
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Well, that's fair enough. No-one can force you. You are clearly averse to having children and nothing will persuade you otherwise. However, for many women, a generous state salary - as opposed to very low benefits - will be more than sufficient to persuade them to reproduce.
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| I think my meaning was pretty clear pig. Not all men are pigs. But some definitely are. |
I'm not a pig, Empress - I'm an absolute pussycat and I wouldn't harm a fly. 
However, I do try to attempt a more honest description of humanity and sexuality and often my findings are not pleasant to some ears.
However, I must take issue with that bolded statement. You said I answered Otis's question (presumably with a YES)...not some, not most....ALL! If you'd said "Not all men are pigs. But some definitely are" to begin with, I wouldn't have argued.
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| You're right about the rent. But I live in Korea, so how is it relevant? |
My point here was that many childless, working women, rejecting outright the possibility of having children on the basis that they're doing what they want, because women have more choices these days, are living very financially, intellectually modest existences. For every superwoman like Cherie Blair, there are 10 other underpaid working, childless girls bored out of their wits in offices when they should be at home looking after children.
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