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[rocklee]

I am relaxed, but there has been a number of threads complaining about Vista already, yet no one has any real experience with the platform, no screenshots, no feedbacks, nothing. Sounds like conclusions were drawn from mainly "professonal" tech writers.

I read one guy saying that first Gen DX10 cards will suck (how and why?) and that winFS is designed for the business crowd (in what way?) and that MS' naming scheme is terrible (how? 95,98,200,XP,Vista). Please elaborate rather than write like some troll on engadget.

Our winter programs will finish this week so I'll have more time to write on the other gaming thread (a lot of misinformation there too).

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[rocklee]

Here are some walkthroughs of setting up Vista :

http://www.engadget.com/photos/windows-vista-in-pictures/

[Wrench]

I was quite aware that there are pre existing recorded demos floating on the net.

I meant actual on my PC demo of DX 10. Real hands on stuff not MS propaganda.

There is no noticable difference according to devs of Crysis between DX 9 and DX10 besides faster speed.

G8800 is an uncertainty because DX10 is not publicaly available neither is there DX10 demo. So we will have to wait untill Q3/2007 to see the diff between DX9/DX10 WinXP/Vista. Nvidia was shooting at a really good DX9 card and DX10 compatible card when they built G80 core. Sure the games will run in DX10 but will they run as good as current cards run DX9?

I remember the first gen DX9 cards and DX8 cards sucking big time compared to the 2nd iteration cards.

IE GF2/GF3/GF4/GF5
IE Radeon 7000/8500/9000/9800

WINFS

WinFS is a data storage and management system based on relational databases, developed by Microsoft and first demonstrated in 2003 as an advanced storage subsystem for the Microsoft Windows operating system.

When introduced at the 2003 Professional Developers Conference, WinFS was billed a pillar of the "Longhorn" wave of technologies, and would ship as part of the next version of Windows. It was subsequently decided that WinFS would ship after the release of Windows Vista, but those plans were shelved in June 2006, with some of its component technologies being integrated into upcoming releases of ADO.NET and Microsoft SQL Server[1]. While it was then assumed by observers that WinFS was done as a project, in November 2006 Steve Ballmer announced that WinFS was still in development, though it was not clear if the technology was planned for Vista's successor, Windows "Vienna", or if it would be made available as a separate product.[2]

WinFS is the code name of the system, and is short for Windows Future Storage.

Organizing the data that is in files by its relationships, as WinFS does, has various uses, including:
Integrated storage - One example scenario is the Integrated Storage Conception that helps to reuse data. This feature will be of great use for businesses, by allowing it to automatically aggregate data from different departments.
Full text search - A second possible scenario is a full-text search that works with items fields - the rich filters feature. By making use of the fact that any application's data files can be used by any other application, searches can be made to encompass the contents of the file as well, rather than just its attributes.
Advanced search and data aggregation - WinFS provides an opportunity to create rich and custom made search queries, such as to find “all persons whom I called last weekend”.
Data mining - WinFS can also give more information about data, by using data mining techniques and applying rules to the data, thus helping to uncover new information. This scenario is intended to use in development of expert systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS

Are you telling me your going to use these features extensively?
WinFS was originaly designed with Business in mind. WinFS is just a fancy database running atop of NTFS, its there to help in searching for data. This is not a feature that most people would use at home unless they are serious power users. Anyway just use a Dekstop search engine, IE google, jeeves, yahoo, MSlive if you want this feature (its a psudo fix but its close enough) If you seriously think you need these feature then sir you are a much bigger power user then I. This is why WINFS was delayed until the release of VISTA Server.

I don't own a Mac although I would like to now. Seriously your telling me that Windows Vista sounds as Good as OSX Tiger/Leopard (They use the number to differentiate updates) I guess Apple has that allure of simplicity in its presentation of their products. Just look at the packaging of of their OS. I liked Windows 2000 Profesional name a lot I still use it to this day why? Cause it looks serious, like its for profesionals. Hell my Windows XP looks like Windows 2000.





I am not complaining about Vista I am saying that its really not worth the upgrade AS OF NOW. Maybe 6 months down the road when the hardware is there. Also things like HDCP DRM want to make me not want to buy it either I spent 500 dollars on a nice monitor I don't feel like buying a new one right now either.. Most people will upgrade to Vista when they get new hardware. I use to be IT I know having the latest and greatest is awsome feels good but its plain stupid. I rather buy some stocks or bonds/mutual funds that I know that will make me money and not loose it.

Plus I forgot to mention Maya 6 doesn't work worth shit in Vista. (I got at discount for 1.5k) Hmm OS for 400 bucks or brand new Maya at 6k(edit price went up to 7k). No thanks.

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Or perhaps....

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Done like dinner....

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[Demophobe]

If you use the upgrade edition over your legit copy of XP, you lose the XP license. Yep....there's no turning back...be darn sure you want Vista.