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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:19 am Post subject: |
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twg wrote: |
wannago wrote: |
Force every nation to sign something as lame as the Kyoto Treaty (or Accord, I don't remember)? |
That's right wannago, clean air is as lame as K-Fed!
So here's to seeing you sucking on the nearest smoke-stack to show the kids what cool is all about. |
Better than that, let's see which countries have done the best according to Kyoto. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: |
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daskalos wrote: |
ddeubel wrote: |
I'd just wish that stupid Nobel committee of fat cats would start nominating more "low key" true and strong characters |
Just by the way, anyone can nominate anyone else for any Nobel prize. As I understand it, there is no committee that nominates people, only a committee that looks at the nominations submitted by ... anyone. |
If I'm not mistaken, there are SOME standards about who can nominate, but yeah, they're pretty loose. I think being a univeristy professor is enough to get status as a nominee. |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Pligganease wrote: |
twg wrote: |
wannago wrote: |
Force every nation to sign something as lame as the Kyoto Treaty (or Accord, I don't remember)? |
That's right wannago, clean air is as lame as K-Fed!
So here's to seeing you sucking on the nearest smoke-stack to show the kids what cool is all about. |
Better than that, let's see which countries have done the best according to Kyoto. |
Anything but lame, that's for sure! |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote: |
daskalos wrote: |
ddeubel wrote: |
I'd just wish that stupid Nobel committee of fat cats would start nominating more "low key" true and strong characters |
Just by the way, anyone can nominate anyone else for any Nobel prize. As I understand it, there is no committee that nominates people, only a committee that looks at the nominations submitted by ... anyone. |
If I'm not mistaken, there are SOME standards about who can nominate, but yeah, they're pretty loose. I think being a univeristy professor is enough to get status as a nominee. |
Only national politicians, like senators, etc., may nominate others?
Hard to say. Some committees like the MacArthur Foundation, I believe, work in absolute secrecy. |
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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This I did not know:
wikipedia wrote: |
Nominations for the Prize may be made by a broad array of qualified individuals, including former recipients, members of national assemblies and congresses, university professors, international judges, and special advisors to the Prize Committee. In some years as many as 199 nominations have been received. The Committee keeps the nominations secret and asks that nominators do the same. Over time many individuals have become known as "Nobel Peace Prize Nominees", but this designation has no official standing. Nominations from 1901 to 1951, however, have been released in a database. When the past nominations were released it was discovered that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939, though the nomination was retracted in February of the same year. Other infamous nominees included Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize#Nominations |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't that be a little self-serving? I mean, after all, Al Gore invented the Nobel Prize. |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Green Goblin Posters:
I realize Bush is your punching bag and demonizing him your favorite past-time, but even the latest report acknowledges that NONE of the world's nations are doing enough to curb greenhouse gas emissions. Even in Scandanavia, roughly 75% of the energy consumed is in the form of fossil fuels and other pollutants. China is by far the world's worst culprit.
So when you get over your histrionics on this thread, I might join in the "discussion," assuming of course that most actually want a vigorous debate. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Al Gore also wrote a book on the environment so his mantra regarding the environment may not have been so loud as it was recently but the former VP of the U.S. and 2000 won the popularity vote would attract a lot of attention in the United States the number one superpower of the world and it is important if Americans and also Europeans watch such a movie and people all over the world took an interest in this movie. Gore is the kind of person people would relate to on a global level and he is articulate. Is he opportunistic? It is easier to listen to someone if stature than someone without stature.
As far as Canada and de-mining, Canada was the leader in the fight in that area but there were many people of all nationalities working on this and Canada's foreign minister was the honourable Lloyd Axworthy who is quite a progressive individual. The important thing is not the nomination but getting noble things done. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: |
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stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Wouldn't that be a little self-serving? I mean, after all, Al Gore invented the Nobel Prize. |
This year he should get the Peace Prize for his work on the environment, the Economics Prize for inventing the internet (ie. internet commerce wouldn't exist if it wasn't for him), Literature Prize for inventing the worlds biggest reposatory of written and spoken text, and Medicine Prize, again, for the internet (thus making it possible for Americans to get cheap drugs from Canadian pharmacies). |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Gopher wrote: |
First, good for Gore. |
Well, compared to someone such as the irascible Dr. Kissinger, Mr. Gore & the spirit of his campaign effort couldn't be more deserving.
Thus, such an award might even help in part to maintain an enhanced general perception of Nobel credibility
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Second, the usual distortions: Al Gore is a high-profile American politician who has, for years now, worked hard to bring these issues into the public's consciousness, enjoying at least some measure of success. An Inconvenient Truth only represents a small fraction of his overall work.
Never heard of Lloyd Axworthy before now. Always associated Diana with the landmine issue.
Axworthy is from your country, I see, Hollywoodaction. American-educated, though. Princeton. Formerly politically active. Now President at University of Winnipeg -- hardly the center of the universe. In any case, he does have a career to be proud of. Not many of us will ever attain such prestige as he has.
Still, many automatically associate Gore with environmentalism and at the same time, would have to Google Axworthy if you brought his name up. Gore has increased public awareness on this issue much more effectively than Axworthy could hope to on landmines. So, yes, Gore is more deserving.
By the way, for all your chest-thumping nationalism, and Axworthy being from your country and all, could you at least give the man the dignity he deserves by spelling his name correctly? |
Most Canadians know the Ax-worth-ys to be high profile federal politicians.
Both of them go back to at least the Trudeau admin circa. late 60's.
Allan Rock is an interesting guy as well.
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Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: over here
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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this reference is too annoying to leave unaddressed:
stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Wouldn't that be a little self-serving? I mean, after all, Al Gore invented the Nobel Prize. |
Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed he "invented" the internet.
Status: False
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
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To claim that Gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" o the internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing that arose out o a close presidential campaign. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: |
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China To Keep Relying On Coal
Tue Feb 6, 1:38 AM ET
BEIJING (AFP) - China has no plans to radically change its reliance on coal and other dirty fuels despite already feeling the impacts of global warming, according to a leading Chinese meteorologist ... CONT'D ...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070206/bs_afp/unclimatechina_070206063453 |
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