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IS CHAVEZ WELL ON HIS WAY TO BECOMING THE NEXT CASTRO?
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ddeubel wrote:
...your gringo historians who paint by numbers. I prefer those with a nose and who live of the mind, not ONLY facts and footnotes...


You betray extreme ignorance (again). And more.

You speak of my "wearing know [sic] clothes" while casually dismissing some of the world's most cutting-edge Latin Americanists -- at places like Cornell, Johns Hopkins, and Wisconsin -- scholars who command much respect in Latin America. Indeed, Loveman appears in Chilean high school history texts as an authority. One of those Americans Chileans call "m�s chileno que los chilenos."

You have never even read their works, Ddeubel, and here you are dismissing them as "paint-by-the-numbers."

There are indeed few here at this forum more arrogant than me. But your arrogant pretentiousness, your righteous lecturing when you do not even know the facts or ground conditions in places like Latin America and the Caribbean (or the Department of State, for that matter, remember?), astounds me.

Stop preaching and lecturing and listen for once. You might learn something.

And speaking of who we remind each other of from school: I once saw a non-Portuguese-speaking, Americanist scholar who presented himself as a special expert on Brazilian affairs because he knew all about Amerian policy in the region, read a couple of books on Brazilian history, and once spent several days in Rio get virtually laughed off the podium at a Latin American affairs conference. That is who you remind me of. And by the way, Ddeubel, Mr. Special-Moral-Insight into Caribbean affairs: did you read the literature you cited in the original Spanish or in translation...? Laughing
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sincinnatislink wrote:
BJWD wrote:
Sincinnatislink wrote:
Later. Anyone who isn't willing to see the socialist elements of Western Democracy is not worth my time.


Are you speaking of me?


Well, do you believe that the difference between so-called "Socialist" governments, and "Western Democracies" is one of degree or one of varying bases?

I'm not speaking about anyone in particular. I see a trend in how people talk on here, and I'm curious. It might help the discussion.


1) What does this have to do with anything and

2) Socialism is when the workers, or the state acting for the workers, own the means of production. Do your articles of confederation allocate smelts to the workers? and

3) Democracy is the theory that two wolves and a sheep ought to vote on what is for dinner.
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