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andrew

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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have elevators?
Lights in the hallways?
A security guard, or someone who sorts the garbage? |
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Voyeur
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Apt. maintenance fees are pretty common. Frankly, it should just be added to the rent as it effectively is in North America. But here they seem to like having separate bills for some reason.
If you have to provide your own apt. then suck up the fee too - it seems pretty normal to me. Sorry about the lack of communication on it, but c'est la vie.
OTOH if your employer has to provide housing they have to cover the apartment fee too I believe. Not gas or electric, but they should cover apartment fees. |
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alabamaman
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: Apartment community fee - no warning beforehand |
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andrew wrote: |
I was just told by my Korean co-teacher yesterday that I will have to pay 35,000 won monthly for an "apartment community fee". I have already been there two months. My apartment building is located in a small town and though he says it is for "upkeep and maintenance" I have yet to see anything that suggests it is being done. There is litter in the stairwells, in addition to boxes, baby strollers and junk. The outside area around the buildings do not look well-maintained at all and there are a lot of kimchi pots all over. Am wondering why this wasn't mentioned right at the beginning.
I'd like to know how that money is being spent before I pay anything. Has anyone else had to deal with this? My co-teacher says this is common throughout Korea but after living in four different cities, this is the first time it's happened. |
In my humble opinion, it's another way to pocket money from a foreigner. Also, why pay the crook if there's litter around the premises, baby strollers, and the works? |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Voyeur wrote: |
OTOH if your employer has to provide housing they have to cover the apartment fee too I believe. Not gas or electric, but they should cover apartment fees. |
I agree with this completely. If your contract stipulates free housing, then the mandatory housing costs you cannot control should be included.
OP, count yourself lucky. My "general management fee" (not maintenance) is 72,000 won a month. This is in addition to the shared community electricity and water costs, which run anywhere from 15-25,000 a month. I shell out about 100k a month for essentially nothing. Imo, elevator fees and general electricity costs should be covered by rent. But in Korea, landowners have all the power. |
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andrew

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Voyeur
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: |
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I don't think it is that nefarious. I think it is mostly just another way of doing things. If all those things were covered by rent then the rent would be higher.
You aren't gonna change the world and a fight over 32,000 a month isn't worth it. Really, they are just saying that your rent is in fact higher than one thinks it is. That is how I have always looked at it.
There is probably some reason for separating the fees - maybe it is easier to change the management fee than rents legally etc... There may be some screwage of the renters etc... But such is life. In Korea true rent = management fee + rent, not just rent alone. |
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oneofthesarahs

Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Location: Sacheon City
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:44 am Post subject: |
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I pay for my apartment maintenence, and it's 40,000 a month. Yes, it should probably just be included in rent, but hey, whatever.
However, my building is properly maintained, which makes me feel okay about paying it. It's a large apartment complex, but it's always quite neat, and burned out lights are replaced very quickly. If my apartment was a hellhole, I'd probably be upset about paying it, too. |
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braunshade
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Location: Somewhere better!
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:05 am Post subject: |
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Just don't pay it! |
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J.B. Clamence

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:24 am Post subject: |
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It is a bill like any other. If you have to pay your gas and electric bills, etc., you ought to pay the community bill as well. Why would your employer pay it? |
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Missile Command Kid
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: |
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30,000 maintenance fee here too. Not a big deal, in my opinion. |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Don't pay it.
Quit. Picket the building, nude. Write to your embassy. Call EFL law, create a .org website outlining the injustice, blacklist the apartment at city hall, leave Korea in disgust, telling everyone how backwards and unfair the place is and berate Koreans for the rest of your days.
Hub of Asia, baby. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: |
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OP- my building is poorly maintained, too. Not really sure what we can do about it.  |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Almost every residence in korea has some sort of management fee..
My last place was a one-room and it was even 20 000 a month(but she did clean it every day and if we had a problem she would be on it straight away)..
Apartments and officetels, basically all have a management fee...ranging anywhere from 30 000 to 150 000 depending on the size of your apartment and how new it is.... |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: |
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braunshade wrote: |
Just don't pay it! |
Or if you have to pay it whine like I do every time you have been wronged. It's good soul cleansing.  |
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