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To those who don't like Itaewon...
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: To those who don't like Itaewon... Reply with quote

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Here's the deal with Itaewon. It's harmless, ok?

Oh my god, some guy tried to sell you a suit and you were enough of an idiot to look in his direction? How about manning up and just, I don't know, ignoring them?

Wow, you go to every crap hole bar and hot dang people are starting fights and the girls are gross!!! Ever hear of Bar-Nana, Bricx, Wolfhound, or one of the other 80 billion places that are completely awesome and chill?

Hooker hill? Ewwww! Shut up; please walk around the south side of chicago or the south bronx and come back to me about sleazy.

Too many foreigners? Well, I guess the kimbop and samgyeupsol are enough for you, carry on, as the 'won is one of the few places to get half decent foreign food.

Military guys scare you? If you're a guy and you said that, you're a *beep*. How about, I don't know, talking to them?

If you can't tell, this is in response to that other Itaewon thread; some of the stuff I saw there just annoyed me as it's basically coming from the mouths of people who have *never* liked that sort of atmosphere, and it wouldn't matter if it was in Korea or New York, etc, etc.

To those coming to Korea for the first time...Itaewon is TAME compared to any of the other night life scenes around the world. Yes, you'll probably see a lame barfight, yes you'll see hookers, yes you'll see poor korean girls who need to be saved from the gross white guy that THEY PICKED TO DATE.

Through it all, Itaewon has a lot to offer, especially when you go off the beaten path and just explore. Here's an idea, something that I did. Instead of letting your friends take you around to the usual crap holes, how about just taking one night and literally ducking your head into every bar you see, just to know what it is. What you find may surprise you.

P.s.
Koreans are, for the most part, scared of Itaewon because of the usual Korean xenophobia. In the coming months you'll find A LOT of things that Koreans are scared of that are old hat for us.
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Woland



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What brought this on?
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woland wrote:
What brought this on?

If I had to guess:

Success in picking up a juicy girl... For reals
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twg wrote:
Woland wrote:
What brought this on?

If I had to guess:

Success in picking up a juicy girl... For reals


http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=17187
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Woland



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess. I always get worked up enough to make/copy ascii art over two year old threads, too.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woland wrote:
I guess. I always get worked up enough to make/copy ascii art over two year old threads, too.


meh, new posts=new.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the 6 years I lived in Korea, I live 5 out of those 6 years in the "t'won", I had no problems there.
And I lived in the area right behind MacDonald's and at the end of my street was the philippine embassy (which moved there in 2003).
Although the novelty of living there wore off, I still found it very convenient;

1. Itaewon was THE CENTER of Seoul (literally!). If you understood the bus route, you would know that you could take a bus from Itaewon to any of the major bus hubs (Hannam Dong and Namyoung Dong) to take a bus anywhere in the city. Not to mention that line number-6 was connected to all major sub-lines in the city.

2. As someone had mentioned before, you could find EVERY kind of foreign cuisine in Itaewon (minus Russian food, but I knew where to go for that). Abeit it might be atad expensive, but at least you can get some different kind of food other than Korean or fast food.

3. Aside from all the "juicy bars" on hooker hill, there were some cool hangouts in Itaewon like Seoul Pub, Nashville and Geckos, but if people ventured alittle further toward hannam dong, they can find some pretty cool Korean style pubs near the university hospital and Dangkuk university.

4. Finally and not least, Itaewon was the kind of place you can walk 2 meters and hear 6 different languages being spoken.

My list can go on forever in regards to Itaewon. If I were to put down a place, I would put down Hongdae, been there several times and I found the place overpriced and overhyped.

Most people only hear about what happens there at night and brush aside the positive side of things that happen during the day- but I must ask this; if Itaewon is so bad, can't other areas of Seoul be worse?
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blynch



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
For the 6 years I lived in Korea, I live 5 out of
My list can go on forever in regards to Itaewon. If I were to put down a place, I would put down Hongdae, been there several times and I found the place overpriced and overhyped.

Most people only hear about what happens there at night and brush aside the positive side of things that happen during the day- but I must ask this; if Itaewon is so bad, can't other areas of Seoul be worse?


its a foreign ghetto (and that's ur level).
hey its only 10 minutes away... go bears!
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
and that's ur level


And what level would that be?
Be specific....

And that's not a "ghetto"

A real "foreign ghetto" are those you will find in the Arab Gulf States like Kuwait, Qatar and the UAE where people live in high-rise apartments that are VERY similar to what you will find in NYC or Detroit....

Itaewon is like Beverly Hills compared to that....
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New meat here. Been in Seoul for two and half weeks. I have been to central Seoul a couple of times, COEX once, Yongsan, and live in Mok-dong.

I went to Itaewon for the first time yesterday. After seeing very few westerners I was surprised to see so many. Yes, it is a little sleazy, but not enough to bother me, yes it is cheesy commercial, but not too bad compared to other tourist traps I have been to.

Still I didnt like it. I do like Korean food, so dont yet feel the need for restaurants from other countries, though I might later. I had a beer from home, expensive and past the end of its shelf life Sad

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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mnhnhyouh wrote:
Yes, it is a little sleazy, but not enough to bother me, yes it is cheesy commercial, but not too bad compared to other tourist traps I have been to.


h


Commercial like "Suit Sir. You need a suit?"

Sleazy like "Sir! Hello Sir! Come inside" (as you walk past Starbutts)
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdog2050 wrote:
twg wrote:
Woland wrote:
What brought this on?

If I had to guess:

Success in picking up a juicy girl... For reals


http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=17187

I've seen it.

Doesn't mean this passionate slam on anyone who finds the charms of Itaewon lacking makes sense.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To those coming to Korea for the first time...Itaewon is TAME compared to any of the other night life scenes around the world. Yes, you'll probably see a lame barfight, yes you'll see hookers, yes you'll see poor korean girls who need to be saved from the gross white guy that THEY PICKED TO DATE.


Yes, Itaewon is tame. You could walk around there at night and be safe. Despite that Itaewon is filled with two many meat heads and the people are quite limited in scope.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
My list can go on forever in regards to Itaewon. If I were to put down a place, I would put down Hongdae, been there several times and I found the place overpriced and overhyped.


Overhyped I'll grant you, but overpriced? There are like ten Ho Bars in the area and they're all cheap. Then there's the Gold Bar and Tin Pan series and a crapload of drinking establishments with outdoor seating. I just don't find sitting outside of UN Club in the late afternoon with brew all that relaxing, really.

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reconhottie



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Itaewon. Am I afraid of it? Nope. But then again, I like staying in my house even before curfew.
The vendors just make me laugh now, they used to make me feel bad for not paying attention to them.
I actually think is a fun place to see the clash of cultures. But that is if you are open minded enough to not get frustrated by the GIs, or Canadians, or whatever kind of people walk the streets.
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