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HapKi · Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL

I always kept hopes that, while the protaganist ran the gauntlet in the 'human prey" stadium, and ultimately led his captors after him in a chase into the pit of human corpses and beyond, the other blue-men sacrifices took new found hope in their sudden good fortune, and casually and unnoticable wandered another direction and back into the jungle to their families

ajgeddes · Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan

Julius · Joined: 27 Jul 2006

its shocking what the white americans did to the natives.

manlyboy · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject:

Julius · Joined: 27 Jul 2006

socrates flitcraft · Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Location: Seoul

apoco-poca begat apoca-medio which inturn begat apoca-media...'til we all fall down

tell him what he's won jim...YOu've won a colour TV!

you can't beat a bit of bully

off my own bat, thought about colombus and his mates, not the lackies but da gama et al. vrs gandhi
gandhi said that true civilisation is recognising that your wants should not increase exponentially ( sorry paraphrasing brutally ) where as 'explorers' could be seen in some ways as the little boys with no imaginations.

Like the whole world is their cage, they have to be constantly active to keep hiding from the fragility of their own minds.
in doing this, they see no further than their own noses/personal pride and greed and widow dress populist morality for their own purposes.

For modern day explorers , see many in areas of scientific research
Granted I am thinking of particular people in my own past to have a little go at but it's been therapeutic.

Julius · Joined: 27 Jul 2006

endo · Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home

seoulsucker · Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject:

manlyboy · Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject:

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

Hollywoodaction · Joined: 02 Jul 2004

The movie is an allegory for the war on terror...that's what I was getting at in my previous post.

ChimpumCallao · Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: your mom

what I took from it was this...

for as long as can be remembered, native people have been painted as being the humble creatures who are in tune with the earth, sing all the time, never want for anything, would never hurt a fly, and love everything (i.e. NOT HUMAN). they have been relegated to a very narrow perception: disney caricatures and/or noble savages.

what this movie shows is that natives were people too. they were good and bad and they went to war and they had problems and famine and needs and desires. it wasn't all just a sing a long during the harvest.

it also showed that there could have been internal reasons as to why natives were so easily conquered by the spaniards, although this is pure speculation.

i also like the fact that nothing was painted as good or bad, and that no one person or civilization can fit such myopic and childish descriptions.

I don't think this movie had ANYTHING to do with the conquistadors, and they were merely shown at the end because 1) it gave a time reference 2) it was good shock value 3) it wrapped up the movie very well (we don't really speculate on what happened, as we know the outcome)

I really enjoyed the movie. It sounds so corny, but I liked that a movie showed the Mayans (i assume it is them) as being "real people" and not just victims or cartoons. I have studied this, and it is well known that many Mexican and South American civilizations were already in deep deep decline before anyone took over. I think the main message due to this was: it is easier to break down a wall if the insides are already rotted and hollow.

DHC · Joined: 15 Jan 2003

The Maya predicted eclipses (see Dresden and Madrid codices) and the priests would know when one was going to occur.

FistFace · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:59 am Post subject:

I own the high definition blu-ray version of this, and finally got around to watching it last night.

Is it even out on DVD in Korea?

I don't care if it's factual or not, but it sure does put the kebosh on the whole "mayan's were peaceful" movement, and attempts to make all white Europeans look evil.