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Why I Hate My Younger Brother...
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Lao Wai



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: East Coast Canada

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Why I Hate My Younger Brother... Reply with quote

Well, I don't actually hate him but I am a bit jealous. My brother had just moved out to Ft. McMurray, Canada to work as a Network Administrator for a large oil company there. He was offered a really good employment package and salary (he's 23). Anyway, he's been there a few months and his job has not been what they promised him he would be doing. So, he started applying for other jobs. Well, I found out today that he got this other job. His salary is 88,000 CAD a year, good vacation time, a 3000.00 signing bonus, and they also pay a large portion of his rent (forget how much). Did I mention he did a two year college program and that my mother and father paid for most of that? And up until a few months ago he had never left home.

Now let's look at me. A BA and a BEd....student loans coming out of my ass. Currently making about 50, 000 CAD a year in HK. Thinking of returning home for more 'job satisfaction' (I know, am I mental?) where my salary will drop to some figure in the 40,000 range if I can even find a teaching job. And I always thought that 'I' was the smart one. Crying or Very sad

Edit: Now you're supposed to tell me that even though he makes more money, I'm the richer one because of my vast travel experiences and cultural learnings...right?...guys?
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ChimpumCallao



Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: your mom

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude,

He lives in FORT MCMURRAY.

No one should be jealous of that.

Ever.
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Lao Wai



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: East Coast Canada

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha ha....thanks. He did say that it's a complete hole...
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lao Wai wrote:
Ha ha ha....thanks. He did say that it's a complete hole...


And, he lives in Canada.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is kind of an indication we were suckers for getting educations. A lot of my friends back home work up in the Fort and are easily making way more than I make.

But it is Fort MacMurray, yes. There's no point in earning a ton of money if you don't have anything good to do with it.
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, 80,000 is what it says in his contract.

How much does he put in his pocket after:

1) paying 30% in Income and Provincial Tax, UI premium, CP, and Union dues if applicable.

2) paying GST on nearly all purchases

3) paying HUGE rent in Ft. Mac.

4) paying his $600 truck payment, and for his gas.

5) Paying for Car insurance

6) Paying for Alberta Health Care

7) Paying for his huge bar bill, since all there is to do in FT Mac is drink, smoke, and f*ck.

At the end of the day, I bet you save a hell of a lot more than your "rich" brother after one year. And you won't be a drug addict or have an STD, which is probably 50% of Ft Mac (not an official statistic, just a feeling).
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChimpumCallao wrote:
Dude,

He lives in FORT MCMURRAY.

No one should be jealous of that.

Ever.


Holy crap you are alive! How is larry?
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DanielP



Joined: 25 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People talk about their income like it's THE big picture when in reality it's not.

How much is your brother paying in expenses? How about taxes?

If you wanna get jealous, look at his cashflow (Income - expenses) and look at yours.

Lol. It's like those people who say: well, I make six figures! In reality, those "six figures" go towards their bank, credit cards, student loans, and much much more. So they dont make the six figures, their creditors do...they make what's left Crying or Very sad

Personally, I'd rather have better cashflow than higher income...especially if you have to trade even MORE time of your short life for that higher income..even though the government would prefer the former of the choices.

Also, you can tell him to enjoy it while it lasts. If it's so good, you can bet that other people are fighting for that spot as we speak...but I'm sure he's going to hold it for a while since he sounds competitive..and he's your bro
Wink

Daniel
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Svetlana



Joined: 22 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:


And, he lives in Canada.



At least its better than America.
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a case of "yes-but." Yes, he makes the big cash but he lives in Fort Mac. Obviously this is a bad, bad time.

As another example, my twin sister is working in Toronto as a chemical engineer. She makes a cool 80 000 or so. When I asked her how much money she saved each month, it's about $2000 (the same as me!). It's all a matter of perspective. Free rent and low tax here helps a lot.
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pdx



Joined: 19 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait a second... you got an education degree and you're complaining about the pay?

I'm sorry - but in my intro to ed course (that's a sophomore class) I was fully informed about what my pay/hours/stipulations/benefits were for being a teacher. There's no way I can complain. I knew it from the beginning.
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giovanni



Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdx wrote:
wait a second... you got an education degree and you're complaining about the pay?

I'm sorry - but in my intro to ed course (that's a sophomore class) I was fully informed about what my pay/hours/stipulations/benefits were for being a teacher. There's no way I can complain. I knew it from the beginning.


I completely agree. But hey, you get 2+ months vacation.
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChimpumCallao wrote:
Dude,

He lives in FORT MCMURRAY.

No one should be jealous of that.

Ever.


nice little jab. no complaints.

zappadelta wrote:
And, he lives in Canada.


cheap shot. might have been funnier if it came before the previous jab. but as it stands, it's just an uninspired attempt at trolling.

Svetlana wrote:
At least its better than America.


as uninspired as zappadelta's troll attempt was, he did hook one fish. svetlana, if you had four days and a team of writers, could you possibly come up with a lamer comeback than that?


to the OP... are you happy where you are and with what you're doing? are you making enough money to live on, and putting away enough to cover whatever future ambitions you might have? if so, be happy for the little bro. if he's making good money, then you can relax in the knowledge that you'll never have to support a deadbeat loser younger brother while you're trying to raise a family or something. that's a good thing.
and really... no matter how great a job you land, there will always be someone making a lot more than you. if your aspiration is to be the richest guy in the world, you'll always be a loser.
figure out what you want in the future, then figure out what kind of money you'll need to get there. but don't forget to enjoy the ride along the way.
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Lao Wai



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: East Coast Canada

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdx wrote:
wait a second... you got an education degree and you're complaining about the pay?

I'm sorry - but in my intro to ed course (that's a sophomore class) I was fully informed about what my pay/hours/stipulations/benefits were for being a teacher. There's no way I can complain. I knew it from the beginning.


Well, you see, at the time I did my Ed. degree, a teacher's salary (with benefits) seemed pretty decent to live off of (I had only had crap summer jobs previously and Korea). However, now that I'm older and wiser I know that a teacher's salary doesn't go very far to cover rent (or mortgage), car payment, horrendous heating bills in the winter, taxes, etc. So, yeah, I 'should' have known better, but who's perfect? Besides, at the time I found out I was accepted into my Ed. degree, I was working at a call centre in Canada..so I was like 'thank @#!$%ing god!'. Anyway, if I go back to Canada to teach and find it too hard to live, I'll go back to school to be a plumber or something.
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously if some of the posters on this board were to be believed, you'd have to be bringing in $200,000 US a year to save the same as 2.5 mil won a month in Korea!

What with taxes and all.. Confused
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