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housing, key money and breaking it....

 
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: housing, key money and breaking it.... Reply with quote

I just need some info here about housing.

I've been living in my public school provided officetel for the last year and I really hate it. I asked my school if, upon resigning, I could be moved to a different location or find my own housing.

My co-teacher has told me that the school put down a hefty deposit (can't remember the Korean term...Chae...something?) and that they have a two year agreement on it. The school used the same officetel for two years prior with the previous teacher. She told me that it's impossible for me to move housing.

Does anyone have any information about this kind of stuff? I love my school but I can't live in that building for another year. Thanks.
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds about right. I have a two year rental agreement with my landlord also. However, if your school talked to your landlord you might be able to move out, but only if they line up someone else to move into your apartment and pay the key money.

But...that is probably more hassle than your school wants to deal with so they probably won't bother.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't impossible, just a big hassle..

To break the contract you will need to find someone to take over the lease so to speak. basically to put down the same key money so your boss can pull it out..

If it is a lot of key money it could be hard but if it is a small one-room then it shouldn't be too hard at all...
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: housing, key money and breaking it.... Reply with quote

crazy_arcade wrote:
My co-teacher has told me that the school put down a hefty deposit (can't remember the Korean term...Chae...something?) and that they have a two year agreement on it.


i think the term you're looking for is cheonsae. it's a weird thing about korean real estate, and i still haven't figured out how the landlord makes any money from it. but the way it works from the renter's point of view is that you pay someone an assload of money. where i live it's something like 80,000,000 won. and then you live in the place for two years, at the end of which you get the full 80,000,000 won back.
that's why it's such a hassle, unless you can find someone with that kind of cash lying around who wants to move into your place at that very moment.
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well..there will be a bunch of new teachers moving into the area. I think I might try to convince my school to get a different school to take my place over. It's a worth a try, right?
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazy_arcade wrote:
well..there will be a bunch of new teachers moving into the area. I think I might try to convince my school to get a different school to take my place over. It's a worth a try, right?


most definitely. nothing to lose by asking.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: housing, key money and breaking it.... Reply with quote

endofthewor1d wrote:
crazy_arcade wrote:
My co-teacher has told me that the school put down a hefty deposit (can't remember the Korean term...Chae...something?) and that they have a two year agreement on it.


i think the term you're looking for is cheonsae. it's a weird thing about korean real estate, and i still haven't figured out how the landlord makes any money from it. .


Interest...that's why the principle amount is so high. Takes a lot of money to earn good money from the interest. 5% on half a million is only 25 grand for example.

Or ROI--return on investment...the landlord puts the money into the stock market or bonds or something. Some people (or so I have heard) lost their key money because of the landlord's dogey investments.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also another reason cheonsae is so popular is the risk moves from the the owner to the renter as the owner doesn't have to worry about monthly rent and has security in hand in case you want to do somethin g silly....

Many koreans are a little slack at paying the rent(as some are in the west as well) so if a big chunk of change is put down then that doesn't become a worry anymore..

Of course, the money made from it is less but the risk of losing money for the owner becomes minimal
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Jasobang



Joined: 11 Dec 2005
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you pay the officetel's owner's 부동산 fees (복비??) for renting to a new tenant and your school's fee for the new place, then it's just the matter of the hassle that youi have to deal with.

In that case, however, you probably won't find anything better for the deposit money the school has for an apartment. Another option would be to find another tenant, through a 부동산 and tell the school that you would like to go on housing allowance next contract.

In the end, it's pretty much up to the school. If you have a good relationship and plan to stick around a while, I'm sure they will be more than happy to help you out.

I've moved mid-contract many times, it really isn't that hard. Timing is the hardest thing.
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Jasobang



Joined: 11 Dec 2005
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I've found that in many cases the deposit is used to either pay a loan from the bank incurred in buying the property, or to pay the tenants who are leaving. The original idea of ROI has been lost.
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jasobang wrote:
Actually, I've found that in many cases the deposit is used to either pay a loan from the bank incurred in buying the property, or to pay the tenants who are leaving. The original idea of ROI has been lost.


I am sure that's the case. That's why some people can't move out of their apartments even after their lease is up, because the place they live in is a dump, the landlord has pissed away the key money, and he can't find anybody to move in so he can't afford to pay the outgoing tenant. Great system!
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