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semphoon · Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: Where Nowon is

How often do you have to do these?

I have started a new job where I have to write a report every month for 45 students. Now, I am not being lazy. I know you have to prep classes and plan for the next month...but 45 reports...every month.

Should this be considered part of your basic time or does it get paid as over time?

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Did I mention I have to do 45 EVERY MONTH!?

xCustomx · Joined: 06 Jan 2006

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm currently working on 38 of them and have to personalize all of them. I can't use that esltool thing because it's too general

I already have to make 6 review exams every month which are about 6 pages each, plus grade all of them.

The report cards add another 12-14 hours of work each month and IMO should be paid as OT. Maybe not all as OT, but at least 1/2

spyro25 · Joined: 23 Nov 2004

are the paid as overtime in your home country?

i know that my mum and dad (both teachers) never got any overtime for doing reports in england. suck it up and get to work.

semphoon · Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: Where Nowon is

jay-shi · Joined: 09 May 2004 Location: On tour

oneofthesarahs · Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Location: Sacheon City

I write 32 each month. Whatever. It's part of the job, and I actually enjoy writing the reports, because I'm at a hagwon where I can give bad grades and be honest on the reports.

It gives me a certain sense of pleasure to inform parents what little sh*ts their kids are.

xCustomx · Joined: 06 Jan 2006

Voyeur · Joined: 19 Jun 2003

If you are getting paid for prep or to be at school then they can ask you to do as many non-teaching tasks during that time as they want including writing reports.

So for many, esp. at public schools, there should be no extra pay as this is part of that 8 hour day that is in many contracts.

In other cases you should be paid. It all depends on how many mandatory non-teaching hours are in your contract.

xCustomx · Joined: 06 Jan 2006

Do public school teachers have to do report cards? I sure as hell hope not, since I'll be at one next month

Homer · Guest

My mother was a HS teacher back in Canada and she was not paid extra to write reports, to meet with parents, to grade papers.....

She routinely brought home grading and worked on it evenings...this was not considered overtime.

When I was teaching in Ontario it was the same story....

So..my answer is that it is part of your job....even if it does bite big time sometimes...

Pak Yu Man · Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy

When you're finished, photocopy them.
Then next month 'write' a new report.

You'll save lots of times.

Voyeur · Joined: 19 Jun 2003

jmbran11 · Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Location: U.S.

All of us have extra work that isn't contract. That's usually why we have working hours and teaching hours. Sometimes, it's a pain, but I think we avoid complaining until it gets unreasonable. I don't know how long 45 reports at one school takes, but if you can do it in your prep time, I'd say it's ok. It's because the parents pay outrageous fees, and they want a lot of feedback. So, the director has to justify that outrageous salary he/she tells the parents you're receiving.

Voyeur · Joined: 19 Jun 2003

If you do it during prep time then it is likely in your contract - it isn't extra or non-contract.

I don't believe teachers should do regular, recurring work that is not in their contract. It trains owners to feel that contracts don't matter - to treat us like their Korean employees.

That being said, contracts usually include some provisions for non-teaching work.