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Ariel bombardment: what are its merits?
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jinju



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
jinju wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
jinju wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
jinju wrote:
Whats funny is that big bird (capitals purposfully not used) has admitted to being friends with people who support the kind of violent extremism that Al Qaeda practices. big bird is FRIENDS with such people.


That's news to me. I said I knew a couple of guys (acquaintances) that had some sympathy for jihadists, but that my Arab friends did not approve of these guys' views, and had argued with them. Perhaps someone has serious reading comprehension difficulties?


You admit it again. If you were a mentally healthy indivisual you wouldnt have such "acquaintances"


Don't be bloody stupid. You can't always help knowing people. One guy was someone who always hung around the pool table at the bar we drank. We only talked to him as we waited for our game. He had as much right to play pool as we did. You are a nincompoop.


Stupidest thing Ive ever read. You cant help knowing people? You cant help knowing about people. You CAN control who you have any sort of interaction with. You choose to know terrorist wannabes. Is your daughter promised to them? Sharia law, here she comes, eh?


The stupidest stuff I've ever read is the s-hite coming from your posts on this thread. What exactly are you trying to say? Are you giving your worldly advice on who people should interact with? Instead of talking to people in bars, you expect people to 'control' themselves? And what is this, frankly quite disturbing, obsession with BB's daughter all about?


Its called hypocrisy. BB keeps defending muslim fanatics on this board but I doubt she would want her daughter to be married to one. Its all fine for her to insist that Sharia law be used to crush women everywhere but I bet she wouldnt like it done to her daughter. BB is a hypocrite.
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
Its called hypocrisy. BB keeps defending muslim fanatics on this board but I doubt she would want her daughter to be married to one. Its all fine for her to insist that Sharia law be used to crush women everywhere but I bet she wouldnt like it done to her daughter. BB is a hypocrite.

Looks like careful reading and thinking are a bit much for you, best you stick to making pretty pictures.
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
tiger fancini wrote:
jinju wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
jinju wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
jinju wrote:
Whats funny is that big bird (capitals purposfully not used) has admitted to being friends with people who support the kind of violent extremism that Al Qaeda practices. big bird is FRIENDS with such people.


That's news to me. I said I knew a couple of guys (acquaintances) that had some sympathy for jihadists, but that my Arab friends did not approve of these guys' views, and had argued with them. Perhaps someone has serious reading comprehension difficulties?


You admit it again. If you were a mentally healthy indivisual you wouldnt have such "acquaintances"


Don't be bloody stupid. You can't always help knowing people. One guy was someone who always hung around the pool table at the bar we drank. We only talked to him as we waited for our game. He had as much right to play pool as we did. You are a nincompoop.


Stupidest thing Ive ever read. You cant help knowing people? You cant help knowing about people. You CAN control who you have any sort of interaction with. You choose to know terrorist wannabes. Is your daughter promised to them? Sharia law, here she comes, eh?


The stupidest stuff I've ever read is the s-hite coming from your posts on this thread. What exactly are you trying to say? Are you giving your worldly advice on who people should interact with? Instead of talking to people in bars, you expect people to 'control' themselves? And what is this, frankly quite disturbing, obsession with BB's daughter all about?


Its called hypocrisy. BB keeps defending muslim fanatics on this board but I doubt she would want her daughter to be married to one. Its all fine for her to insist that Sharia law be used to crush women everywhere but I bet she wouldnt like it done to her daughter. BB is a hypocrite.


jinju is a complete fantasist who has dreamt up my 'defence' of muslim fanatics as well as my 'insistence' that 'Sharia law be used to crush women everywhere.' Both positions are utterly news to me. I had always assumed I despised religious extremists of any sort, and was similarly appalled by the subjugation of women. But apparently, I revel in it. So says jinju.

Secondly, like tiger fancini, I find myself rather concerned about jinju's strange fascination with a daughter I have yet to birth. I hope I never see him hanging around the local kindy.
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wannago



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
jinju wrote:
tiger fancini wrote:
jinju wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
jinju wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:
jinju wrote:
Whats funny is that big bird (capitals purposfully not used) has admitted to being friends with people who support the kind of violent extremism that Al Qaeda practices. big bird is FRIENDS with such people.


That's news to me. I said I knew a couple of guys (acquaintances) that had some sympathy for jihadists, but that my Arab friends did not approve of these guys' views, and had argued with them. Perhaps someone has serious reading comprehension difficulties?


You admit it again. If you were a mentally healthy indivisual you wouldnt have such "acquaintances"


Don't be bloody stupid. You can't always help knowing people. One guy was someone who always hung around the pool table at the bar we drank. We only talked to him as we waited for our game. He had as much right to play pool as we did. You are a nincompoop.


Stupidest thing Ive ever read. You cant help knowing people? You cant help knowing about people. You CAN control who you have any sort of interaction with. You choose to know terrorist wannabes. Is your daughter promised to them? Sharia law, here she comes, eh?


The stupidest stuff I've ever read is the s-hite coming from your posts on this thread. What exactly are you trying to say? Are you giving your worldly advice on who people should interact with? Instead of talking to people in bars, you expect people to 'control' themselves? And what is this, frankly quite disturbing, obsession with BB's daughter all about?


Its called hypocrisy. BB keeps defending muslim fanatics on this board but I doubt she would want her daughter to be married to one. Its all fine for her to insist that Sharia law be used to crush women everywhere but I bet she wouldnt like it done to her daughter. BB is a hypocrite.


jinju is a complete fantasist who has dreamt up my 'defence' of muslim fanatics as well as my 'insistence' that 'Sharia law be used to crush women everywhere.' Both positions are utterly news to me. I had always assumed I despised religious extremists of any sort, and was similarly appalled by the subjugation of women. But apparently, I revel in it. So says jinju.

Secondly, like tiger fancini, I find myself rather concerned about jinju's strange fascination with a daughter I have yet to birth. I hope I never see him hanging around the local kindy.


Or what? You'll blow yourself and the kindy up? Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Secondly, like tiger fancini, I find myself rather concerned about jinju's strange fascination with a daughter I have yet to birth. I hope I never see him hanging around the local kindy.
The mentioning your daughter is not necessary ..I would add though that I would NEVER want my children to be have to live for any lengthy amount of time under sharia law. EVER
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jinju



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

postfundie wrote:
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Secondly, like tiger fancini, I find myself rather concerned about jinju's strange fascination with a daughter I have yet to birth. I hope I never see him hanging around the local kindy.
The mentioning your daughter is not necessary ..I would add though that I would NEVER want my children to be have to live for any lengthy amount of time under sharia law. EVER


Neither would Big Bird but condemning others to do so is all fine according to her wacked out liberal PCism. Thats what makes big bird a hypocrite. That and hanging out with people who profess to support radical groups like Al Qaeda
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Ariel bombardment?

Where's Thundarr?

He should have an opinion.

Perhaps recommend an Ookla bombardment.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Merits and Demerits of Aerial Bombardment Reply with quote

Aerial bombardment is a useful tactic if used against a weak nation-state as an extended diplomatic tool. This is how General Wes Clarke employed it against the Serbs in the 90s. Wes Clarke did not want to deploy troops into war, so he used bombing to convince the Milosevic regime that America was serious about protecting Kosovo and also quite able to do so. In these kinds of situations, air bombardment should be as accurate as possible, although this was the conflict where the Chinese embassy was hit.

Aerial bombardment is also helpful in a total war scenario for demoralizing your enemy. Witness the use of firebombings by General Curtis LeMay. One night firebombing of Tokyo killed more people than either single atomic bomb blast did. Some might consider this employment of air power a war crime, and certainly, in today's limited conflicts, America would avoid this kind of warfare.

Aerial bombardment is not particularly useful against an insurgency. Even limited, co-ordinated strikes often cause collateral damage against an enemy that gains strength from each person you kill. It hardly demoralizes an insurgency, since an air strike is pretty much the best indication of a breakdown in the law and order of the occupying power; a traditional goal of an insurgency.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aerial bombings cost less lives in instances where ground troop use would kill more people.
Lets take Iran's nuclear power program. Should the decision be made, which will cost more lives?
Sending in a huge amount of troops into Iran to fight there way to the faciltiies and use dmeo charges to blow them up, or a week long operation involving hundreds of aircraft sorties to bomb the plants from the air?

Just because you have frienly fire instances doesn't mean bombing is something that should be thrown out. IN regular ground fighting friendly fire happens to: IE: Tillman.
The nature of modern war necessitates being able to bomb targets.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Two on topic posts!
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
postfundie wrote:
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Secondly, like tiger fancini, I find myself rather concerned about jinju's strange fascination with a daughter I have yet to birth. I hope I never see him hanging around the local kindy.
The mentioning your daughter is not necessary ..I would add though that I would NEVER want my children to be have to live for any lengthy amount of time under sharia law. EVER


Neither would Big Bird but condemning others to do so is all fine according to her wacked out liberal PCism. Thats what makes big bird a hypocrite. That and hanging out with people who profess to support radical groups like Al Qaeda


Some of you people are utterly bizzare. I can't even feel irritated by you, you are so off the wall and beyond my comprehension.

I have never championed Sharia Law, ever. In fact I abhor it. I oppose that it ever be used as a legal alternative in Britain. We have our own legal system, and newcomers should abide by it if they want to settle in the UK. I don't like to see it applied even in muslim countries. For many years I've been appalled by its consequences in Pakistan, probably long before any of the loonies posting here had even heard of it!

Some of you must sit here fantasising about me and dreaming up a whole set of 'off the planet' beliefs to ascribe to me. You are clearly discussing an imaginary person.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Svetlana wrote:
The American military is incompetent.


It's very good at blowing things up.

It's a matter of what you're trying to do.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sincinnatislink wrote:
Svetlana wrote:
The American military is incompetent.


It's very good at blowing things up.

It's a matter of what you're trying to do.


Laughing
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
jinju wrote:
postfundie wrote:
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Secondly, like tiger fancini, I find myself rather concerned about jinju's strange fascination with a daughter I have yet to birth. I hope I never see him hanging around the local kindy.
The mentioning your daughter is not necessary ..I would add though that I would NEVER want my children to be have to live for any lengthy amount of time under sharia law. EVER


Neither would Big Bird but condemning others to do so is all fine according to her wacked out liberal PCism. Thats what makes big bird a hypocrite. That and hanging out with people who profess to support radical groups like Al Qaeda


Some of you people are utterly bizzare. I can't even feel irritated by you, you are so off the wall and beyond my comprehension.

I have never championed Sharia Law, ever. In fact I abhor it. I oppose that it ever be used as a legal alternative in Britain. We have our own legal system, and newcomers should abide by it if they want to settle in the UK. I don't like to see it applied even in muslim countries. For many years I've been appalled by its consequences in Pakistan, probably long before any of the loonies posting here had even heard of it!

Some of you must sit here fantasising about me and dreaming up a whole set of 'off the planet' beliefs to ascribe to me. You are clearly discussing an imaginary person.


Well, as you said before, something is clearly lacking in the reading comprehension department around here. Maybe there should be a test one of these days?
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Bramble



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NAVFC wrote:
Aerial bombings cost less lives in instances where ground troop use would kill more people.
Lets take Iran's nuclear power program. Should the decision be made, which will cost more lives?
Sending in a huge amount of troops into Iran to fight there way to the faciltiies and use dmeo charges to blow them up, or a week long operation involving hundreds of aircraft sorties to bomb the plants from the air?

Just because you have frienly fire instances doesn't mean bombing is something that should be thrown out. IN regular ground fighting friendly fire happens to: IE: Tillman.
The nature of modern war necessitates being able to bomb targets.


Sounds like a good reason to reject "modern warfare."
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