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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Near Seoul
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:45 am Post subject: mp3 players |
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Recently bought a 2 gig mp3 player at technomart.
Can only fit about 60 or so songs on it, downloaded from Limewire.
Is this normal? I thought I'd get more than that on it - about 200.....
Looks like I'll have to spend more on one with a bigger drive... darn... |
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rawiri

Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| You should fit at least 500, if not 1500. What brand is it? |
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mnhnhyouh

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Location: The Middle Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: |
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YOu need to look at the songs. I am betting they are .wav or some other unripped and compressed format.
When you turn a song from a CD to an mp3, the encoder throws out a bunchy of data. Which data are thrown out and which are kept is decided upon by the mathematical model that represents what you can and cant hear.
The best analogy I have heard is that of an old fashioned alarm clock. When you listen to it before the alarm goes off you can hear the ticking, so you want that recorded. When the alarm is going off you can no longer hear the ticking, but the microphone can detect it, and so the recording includes both the alarm and the ticking.
Encoding to mp3 (or other lossy format) involves removing the bits you cant hear (more or less of them depending on the bitrate) and then compressing the file, like a .zip file.
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Near Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I didn't rip the songs from a cd, just downloaded them from Limewire... They are all in mp3 formatt and around 4/5 megs each...
Actually, I might just be misunderstanding... I only think the player is full as when I clicked on the drive and hit 'show properties' where it shows you a pink and blue representation of the mp3 players disk, it said it had 2 gigs space with only a few megs left to use... And it was in Korean, which I can't read.... I haven't tried putting any more songs on it yet, so I guess I will try tonight and see what happens... I did think only 60 songs was a bit too few for 2 gigs...
Well it is a chaepie - a 'Delco' model made in china... Thing is the sound is pretty damn good actually, as is the video quality... |
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kimchi story

Joined: 23 Nov 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I had a similar problem when i first got my iPod. It turned out that when I updated it, it wasn't removing the songs - even though they weren't showing up on the iPod. I restored it and that erased everything. It seems that now it does erase the old stuff when it updates. Dunno if you're having the same problem or not. Is there a reset/restore option?(or rather what looks like a reset/restore option - since it's in Korean?) |
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Svetlana

Joined: 22 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: mp3 players |
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Can only fit about 60 or so songs on it, downloaded from Limewire.
Is this normal? I thought Id get more than that on it - about 200.....
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I bought a little Sony 512Mb player about 2 years ago and it would not play all the mp3s I had. Virtually all mp3s I had downloaded from limewire, emule, or other filesharing sites seemed to be flagged by the Sony software and not allowed to upload. They are real pains in the butt about illegal files. Luckily I found a sucker to buy it off me, and I saved and bought an iPod a while later. I have never had problems with my iPod, it plays everything I download. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: mp3 players |
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I have never had problems with my iPod, it plays everything I download. |
Except WMA, OGG and FLAC. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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I have never had problems with my iPod, it plays everything I download.
Except WMA, OGG and FLAC.
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It plays everything she downloads. |
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Greekfreak

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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I picked up a 30gig Ipod and really do enjoy it, but it took far more than a few cursory days to get the appropriate software that quickly and efficiently converted videos just by trial and error.
No mp3 player should give their owner such grief, and so as much as I like this little gem, when it gives up the ghost, I'll be looking around for another company's product. Apple's the mp3 version of the Sony Vaio in terms of facistic downloading policies. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: |
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I have never had problems with my iPod, it plays everything I download.
Except WMA, OGG and FLAC.
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It plays everything she downloads. |
Yeah but if she downloaded these would they work?
No and that is the point. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Near Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| What are WMA, OGG and FLAC - out of curiosity...? |
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mnhnhyouh

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Location: The Middle Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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wma, flac and ogg are sound file formats like mp3 and aac.
All but flac are lossy.
My iPod plays all but wma, which is crap anyway.
See here for a list of codecs a modified iPod can play...
Mpeg-audio, Ogg/vorbis, MPC, A/52 (AC3), AAC (MP4), WAV, AIFF, FLAC, ALAC, Wavpack, Shorten, and MIDI.
I use Rockbox firmware on my iPod, opensource firmware that allows many things including drag and drop both on and *off* an ipod....
More here
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox
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superacidjax

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: Re: mp3 players |
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| rocklee wrote: |
| Except WMA, OGG and FLAC. |
WMA sucks anyway. Just microsoft trying to be Apple. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Near Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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okay, so I've found out I can store more on my little machine (which I have now come to cherish) than I thought.
Now, I have another problem.
I downloaded (uploaded?) a short movie ontoit the other day. Transfered from limewire onto the mp3 player through the computer, dragging and dropping intothe window (E drive) representing my mp3's drive.
Thing is when I turn on the mp3 player and select the movie mode, it says the disk is empty.
I haven't had any problems downloading songs or jpegs (it had picture viewing mode too) onto it, so why am I having trouble getting movies on there...?
Are there special types of files that you can dowload and ones you can't...
Do I need to, I don't know, download a media player onto the mp3 player to get movies to work... but shouldn't it have it's own built in programme to play movies on... I don't know...
Please help...!
Many thanks in advance
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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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(I am bitter) I have bought 3 mp3 players here in korea one was an I-river not bad but too heavy and didn't hold much music. Foolishly talked into buying one "made in korea" broke completely in 8 mothns.
I now have an Nano thank you and am quite happy.
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