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huffdaddy
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| Especially when, in reality, there is only a small fraction of a percent who have actually resorted to violence. |
It only takes that number to fly two jets into skyscrapers or blow up a subway. Amazing how dispassionate discussion of this methodology makes you. |
Sure. But there isn't any assimilation policy in the world that is going to stop them. Preventing terrorism should be a separate concern from Muslim "assimilation," whatever the heck that's supposed to be.
And yes, I try not to be guided by passions. I never jumped on the Bush bandwagon after 9/11, opposed the Iraq invasion before it started, and have always hated the Yankees, Cowboys, and Irish. |
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stevemcgarrett
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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huffdaddy:
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| I never jumped on the Bush bandwagon after 9/11, opposed the Iraq invasion before it started, and have always hated the Yankees, Cowboys, and Irish. |
So you didn't support the invasion of Afghanistan or just Bush foreign policy in general? And who is it exactly that you hate? Sports teams?
gang an jee:
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| You've set the terms, now play the game |
Fair enough. But my response might come nearly two weeks from now as my wife and I are off to Thailand and India on holiday. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
huffdaddy:
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| I never jumped on the Bush bandwagon after 9/11, opposed the Iraq invasion before it started, and have always hated the Yankees, Cowboys, and Irish. |
So you didn't support the invasion of Afghanistan or just Bush foreign policy in general? |
As if it matters to this discourse, I believe the Gulf War was well done. I supported the invasion of Afghanistan (with reservations about how quick and easy people predicted it would be). I still support NATOs presence in Afghanistan, even though the execution is showing signs of failure. Overall, Bush's foreign policy has not impressed me in the slightest.
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| And who is it exactly that you hate? Sports teams? |
I'll leave it to your imagination. 
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gang an jee:
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| You've set the terms, now play the game |
Fair enough. But my response might come nearly two weeks from now as my wife and I are off to Thailand and India on holiday. |
Be safe - assimilate.  |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: |
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stevemcgarrett wrote:
huffdaddy:
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Especially when, in reality, there is only a small fraction of a percent who have actually resorted to violence.
It only takes that number to fly two jets into skyscrapers or blow up a subway. Amazing how dispassionate discussion of this methodology makes you.
Sure. But there isn't any assimilation policy in the world that is going to stop them. Preventing terrorism should be a separate concern from Muslim "assimilation," whatever the heck that's supposed to be.
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Bingo.
After the Oklahoma City bombing, there was no mass campaign to assimilate the whole "militia culture" into mainstream society, nor should there have been. But there might have targetted law-enforcement efforts to monitor specific militia groups that could have been planning similar attacks.
And to show you that I'm not just some self-loathing multiculturalist who condemns his own kind while defending the brown-skiined miscreants, I will say that I thought much of the post-Oklahoma media hoopla about militias was overdone. |
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Nowhere Man
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: ... |
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| But my response might come nearly two weeks from now as my wife and I are off to Thailand and India on holiday. |
WATCH OUT FOR THE MUSLIMS. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| the brown-skiined miscreants |
where can I find these brown-skiined?  In the Alps? |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| WATCH OUT FOR THE MUSLIMS |
Don't worry, I'm not going to Indonesia, the Philippines, or Pakistan. Couldn't pay me to visit any of those places until their governments stop acquiescing to terrorist sympathizers. As for India, we won't be going to Kashmir and as for Thailand, avoiding the south.
Sad that a peaceful predominantly Buddhist country like Thailand has to put up with the shi-t from Muslim extremists in the south. The Thais can hardly be called bellicose and yet the Islamofascists want to stir up separatist sentiments for the Muslim minority there too.
ALL:
I won't be assimilating, since I'm not immigrating. But I will be highly receptive to cultural differences there.
BigBird:
I guess you always order the dark meat at KFC? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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BigBird:
I guess you always order the dark meat at KFC? |
I'm happily vegetarian, and never eat the so called 'food' at KFC. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Nowhere Man:
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| WATCH OUT FOR THE MUSLIMS |
Don't worry, I'm not going to Indonesia, the Philippines, or Pakistan. Couldn't pay me to visit any of those places until their governments stop acquiescing to terrorist sympathizers. As for India, we won't be going to Kashmir and as for Thailand, avoiding the south.
Sad that a peaceful predominantly Buddhist country like Thailand has to put up with the shi-t from Muslim extremists in the south. The Thais can hardly be called bellicose and yet the Islamofascists want to stir up separatist sentiments for the Muslim minority there too.
ALL:
I won't be assimilating, since I'm not immigrating. But I will be highly receptive to cultural differences there.
BigBird:
I guess you always order the dark meat at KFC? |
Steve, what is up with that slam on the Phillipines? They don't acquiesce to terrorism and 90% of the people are Catholics. I wouldn't go to Pakistan either. I would consider certain parts of Indonesia, however.
I wouldn't go to Indonesia before scoping out the area. Certain places are dangerous for Westerners. There is no doubt about that. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Certain places are dangerous for Westerners. There is no doubt about that. |
such as? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
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| Certain places are dangerous for Westerners. There is no doubt about that. |
such as? |
Parts of Jersey, Toronto, and Dallas. Just kidding, pal. Obviously, there are parts of Indonesia such Aceh which you should avoid. I also would be careful in Pakistan, unless I was in certain parts of the capital or Karachi. I've never been to Pakistan, but I am saying if I went there. I have gone through hot areas before with another Western friend. I felt nervous, but I figured I could handle myself. |
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