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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Criticism of Korean anti-Semitism in US draws attention here Reply with quote

It's interesting how it took decades and ex-pats in Korea soliticing the help of American Jewish organisations, but well done to the Korean Times for printing this:

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200702/kt2007021118323910510.htm

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�The images in question in Monnara Iunnara echo classic Nazi canards like those found in Der Sturmer and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion by recycling various Jewish conspiracies like Jewish control of the media and money, Jews profiting from war, and even the reason for the Sept. 11 attacks was that, �Jews use money and the media as weapons in America to do as they want�,� charged Rabbi Abraham Cooper, an associate dean at the Wiesenthal Center, adding, �The author also even alleges that the �final obstacle to success� in the U.S. for Korean- Americans is a so-called �Wall of the Jews.��




So who says that it's not possible for ex-pats to use the foreign media to instigate criticism and changes in Korea?
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my best students today wrote this about education:

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the government should make an all-out effort to improve the quality of the public education so it can measure up to the choosy - probably the choosiest on the planet along with Jews - parents' expectations.


I like one thing about this: he's acknowledging that the stereotype of the covetous Jew has a lot in common with the image Koreans strive toward. Also, I told him to STFU.
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Criticism of Korean anti-Semitism in US draws attention Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
It's interesting how it took decades and ex-pats in Korea soliticing the help of American Jewish organisations, but well done to the Korean Times for printing this:

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200702/kt2007021118323910510.htm

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�The images in question in Monnara Iunnara echo classic Nazi canards like those found in Der Sturmer and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion by recycling various Jewish conspiracies like Jewish control of the media and money, Jews profiting from war, and even the reason for the Sept. 11 attacks was that, �Jews use money and the media as weapons in America to do as they want�,� charged Rabbi Abraham Cooper, an associate dean at the Wiesenthal Center, adding, �The author also even alleges that the �final obstacle to success� in the U.S. for Korean- Americans is a so-called �Wall of the Jews.��




So who says that it's not possible for ex-pats to use the foreign media to instigate criticism and changes in Korea?


Sure, it's possible... when you have an international cabal of bloodthirsty Zionist money-lenders backing you up.
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Criticism of Korean anti-Semitism in US draws attention Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
It's interesting how it took decades and ex-pats in Korea soliticing the help of American Jewish organisations, but well done to the Korean Times for printing this:

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200702/kt2007021118323910510.htm

Quote:
�The images in question in Monnara Iunnara echo classic Nazi canards like those found in Der Sturmer and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion by recycling various Jewish conspiracies like Jewish control of the media and money, Jews profiting from war, and even the reason for the Sept. 11 attacks was that, �Jews use money and the media as weapons in America to do as they want�,� charged Rabbi Abraham Cooper, an associate dean at the Wiesenthal Center, adding, �The author also even alleges that the �final obstacle to success� in the U.S. for Korean- Americans is a so-called �Wall of the Jews.��




So who says that it's not possible for ex-pats to use the foreign media to instigate criticism and changes in Korea?


Sure, it's possible... when you have an international cabal of bloodthirsty Zionist money-lenders backing you up.


If there's one thing I'm not worried about in Korea it's Jews controlling the media.
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
One of my best students today wrote this about education:

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the government should make an all-out effort to improve the quality of the public education so it can measure up to the choosy - probably the choosiest on the planet along with Jews - parents' expectations.


I like one thing about this: he's acknowledging that the stereotype of the covetous Jew has a lot in common with the image Koreans strive toward. Also, I told him to STFU.


If I had co-teachers, much less students, who could write a sentence like that I'd be too busy jumping for joy.
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
One of my best students today wrote this about education:

Quote:

the government should make an all-out effort to improve the quality of the public education so it can measure up to the choosy - probably the choosiest on the planet along with Jews - parents' expectations.


I like one thing about this: he's acknowledging that the stereotype of the covetous Jew has a lot in common with the image Koreans strive toward. Also, I told him to STFU.


Why'd you tell him to STFU? I don't think it's either a secret or a slander to say that Jewish parents emphasize education along with Asian parents. He didn't say, in that quote, that they are greedy, just selective when it comes to education.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
One of my best students today wrote this about education:

Quote:

the government should make an all-out effort to improve the quality of the public education so it can measure up to the choosy - probably the choosiest on the planet along with Jews - parents' expectations.


I like one thing about this: he's acknowledging that the stereotype of the covetous Jew has a lot in common with the image Koreans strive toward. Also, I told him to STFU.


Why'd you tell him to STFU? I don't think it's either a secret or a slander to say that Jewish parents emphasize education along with Asian parents. He didn't say, in that quote, that they are greedy, just selective when it comes to education.


I didn't use those exact words of course, just warned him that it's very rude to make broad generalisations about a group of people he's never met before. I expect when he responds it will be thanking me for pointing this out.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Criticism of Korean anti-Semitism in US draws attention Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
It's interesting how it took decades and ex-pats in Korea soliticing the help of American Jewish organisations, but well done to the Korean Times for printing this:

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200702/kt2007021118323910510.htm

Quote:
�The images in question in Monnara Iunnara echo classic Nazi canards like those found in Der Sturmer and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion by recycling various Jewish conspiracies like Jewish control of the media and money, Jews profiting from war, and even the reason for the Sept. 11 attacks was that, �Jews use money and the media as weapons in America to do as they want�,� charged Rabbi Abraham Cooper, an associate dean at the Wiesenthal Center, adding, �The author also even alleges that the �final obstacle to success� in the U.S. for Korean- Americans is a so-called �Wall of the Jews.��




So who says that it's not possible for ex-pats to use the foreign media to instigate criticism and changes in Korea?



So what changes exactly were made in Korea?

And who exactly were the expats using foreign media?
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Simon Wesienthal Centre states that they were acting on complaints sent to them by expats here, and they're in the process of trying to take action against the publishers. I know, it's a crying shame that outsiders would dare attempt to interfere with Korea's glorious 5,000 year culture of being able to give but not take abuse and not just wait patiently for Korea to change from within.
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, here's the expat's blog from which most of the evidence (and especially translations) was presented to the world: http://monnarakorea.blogspot.com/
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Criticism of Korean anti-Semitism in US draws attention Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
It's interesting how it took decades and ex-pats in Korea soliticing the help of American Jewish organisations, but well done to the Korean Times for printing this:

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200702/kt2007021118323910510.htm

Quote:
�The images in question in Monnara Iunnara echo classic Nazi canards like those found in Der Sturmer and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion by recycling various Jewish conspiracies like Jewish control of the media and money, Jews profiting from war, and even the reason for the Sept. 11 attacks was that, �Jews use money and the media as weapons in America to do as they want�,� charged Rabbi Abraham Cooper, an associate dean at the Wiesenthal Center, adding, �The author also even alleges that the �final obstacle to success� in the U.S. for Korean- Americans is a so-called �Wall of the Jews.��




So who says that it's not possible for ex-pats to use the foreign media to instigate criticism and changes in Korea?


Criticism? Yes. Changes? No. As far as I know, there's still an "Uncle Tom's Cabin" bar in apkujeong and I think at least one of the "Hitler/Third Reich" bars is still around. Rather than try to make positive changes in their own society, they'll just sic VANK to commit cyber-harassment on whomever they disagree with.
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Criticism of Korean anti-Semitism in US draws attention Reply with quote

Troll_Bait wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
It's interesting how it took decades and ex-pats in Korea soliticing the help of American Jewish organisations, but well done to the Korean Times for printing this:

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200702/kt2007021118323910510.htm

Quote:
�The images in question in Monnara Iunnara echo classic Nazi canards like those found in Der Sturmer and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion by recycling various Jewish conspiracies like Jewish control of the media and money, Jews profiting from war, and even the reason for the Sept. 11 attacks was that, �Jews use money and the media as weapons in America to do as they want�,� charged Rabbi Abraham Cooper, an associate dean at the Wiesenthal Center, adding, �The author also even alleges that the �final obstacle to success� in the U.S. for Korean- Americans is a so-called �Wall of the Jews.��




So who says that it's not possible for ex-pats to use the foreign media to instigate criticism and changes in Korea?


Criticism? Yes. Changes? No. As far as I know, there's still an "Uncle Tom's Cabin" bar in apkujeong and I think at least one of the "Hitler/Third Reich" bars is still around. Rather than try to make positive changes in their own society, they'll just sic VANK to commit cyber-harassment on whomever they disagree with.


I think it's quite possible that the publishers will decide to drop some of the more racist images in future publications. Apparently this was making the Israeli press yesterday.

I wonder if any of these have been sold in the US?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least the Koreans can't biatch anymore from the moral high ground about racist Japanese comic books.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
The Simon Wesienthal Centre states that they were acting on complaints sent to them by expats here, and they're in the process of trying to take action against the publishers. I know, it's a crying shame that outsiders would dare attempt to interfere with Korea's glorious 5,000 year culture of being able to give but not take abuse and not just wait patiently for Korea to change from within.



Actually I think it's more of a crying shame that that same kind of garbage (Jews controlling the U.S) and other anti-Semitism is posted semi-regularly by the usual suspects on the Current Events forum.

Maybe some expats ought to send THAT to the Centre.
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Gwangjuboy



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Criticism of Korean anti-Semitism in US draws attention Reply with quote

Troll_Bait wrote:
Rather than try to make positive changes in their own society, they'll just sic VANK to commit cyber-harassment on whomever they disagree with.


At this moment, generation of globalization, the boundaries between nations fall down and the entire world become narrow as one entity, it is very important to establish Korean vision network to collect power of all Koreans spreading out of abroad. We learn the lessons from the Jews and Chinese. Both succeeded to collect the power of their country people, whether they were in the country or abroad, into one, to vitalize various businesses to contribute to the national benefits and to influence a great deal of the entire world.


If the Korean can provides the vision inducing the nation�s power into one strong power through the Korean Network being established by the Koreans of the 21st century and exploring diverse wisdom and actions toward that vision, Korean shall be able to be the most influencing and wide open country among the countries in this world. And Korean can collect all information of every country in the world with their eyes and ears in everywhere and be a Polaris of the entire people of the world to the righteous way.




Make me want to vomit.

Check out VANK's home page. Wow.

http://www.prkorea.com/english/e_overseas/overseas1.htm
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