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Nowhere Man



Joined: 08 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject: Howard goes after Obama Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6352785.stm

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Australian PM John Howard has criticised US presidential hopeful Barack Obama for saying US troops should withdraw from Iraq next year.

His comments came soon after Mr Obama officially announced he would seek the Democratic Presidential nomination.

Mr Howard said al-Qaeda should be "praying as many times as possible" for an Obama victory in the 2008 elections.

But Mr Obama reacted by saying Australia should increase its troops in Iraq, if Mr Howard was so concerned.


Wow. Cynical, shrill, anti-American. He doesn't have the right to vote. So he shouldn't be commenting on our politics. Wink
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank God it was only the Aussie PM... I thought "Howard" referred to Howard Stern, whose views probably carry a lot more weight among the American electorate (and who'd say or do practically anything for free publicity and notoriety ..)
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Pligganease



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Thank God it was only the Aussie PM... I thought "Howard" referred to Howard Stern, whose views probably carry a lot more weight among the American electorate (and who'd say or do practically anything for free publicity and notoriety ..)


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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as Howard is president of a country with a thousand troops in Iraq, he has a vested interest and right to comment on who might be commander-in-chief of the coalition forces to which Australians are a part.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it kind of amusing American politicians, of all people, want others to "butt out" of their political system. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Of course Obama had a good comeback sound bite about why doesn't Howard call up 20,000 Australian boys. The Australian foreign minister on CNN made a good point that Australia is a nation of 20 million and it's already got troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, Indonesia, the Solomon Islands, and other hot spots. Australia is surely pulling its load.
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Son Deureo!



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: Howard goes after Obama Reply with quote

Nowhere Man wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6352785.stm

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Mr Obama reacted by saying Australia should increase its troops in Iraq, if Mr Howard was so concerned.




A smart response. The more I hear about Obama the better I like him.

VanIslander wrote:
As long as Howard is president of a country with a thousand troops in Iraq, he has a vested interest and right to comment on who might be commander-in-chief of the coalition forces to which Australians are a part.


John Howard is welcome to not only comment, but also take over the American war effort in Iraq. I don't think President Obama is likely to stop Australia from doing so.
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Obama's point was that other country's leaders should shutup (particularly with right-wing nutter partisan rhetoric) when it comes to other country's elections.

And don't give me that sad song about Aussie's overseas commitments, many countries are out there doing their best to help others, and they do it without trying to undermine other country's elections.
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mnhnhyouh



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: Howard goes after Obama Reply with quote

Nowhere Man wrote:

Wow. Cynical, shrill, anti-American.


You obviously don't know much about Howard if you think him anti American. The last evidence of his actual existence was his shoe laces hanging out Bush's back passage.

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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

US Population = 300,000,000
Troops in Iraq = 138,000
Percentage of U.S. population in Iraq = 0.046%

Australian Population = 20,000,000
Troops in Iraq = 1,000
Percentage of Australian population in Iraq = 0.005%

If Australia had 9200 troops in Iraq, it would be even.

Americans are the ones that are there and dying, and if Obama wants to tell the American people that he's going to bring their sons and daughters home, that's his right. While Howard is free to say what he wants, he apparently doesn't have the stones to practice what he's preaching.
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: Howard goes after Obama Reply with quote

mnhnhyouh wrote:
Nowhere Man wrote:

Wow. Cynical, shrill, anti-American.


You obviously don't know much about Howard if you think him anti American. The last evidence of his actual existence was his shoe laces hanging out Bush's back passage.

h


He was being sarcastic.
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Sorry, that was an inside joke. Actually, those were.

But I thoroughly enjoyed your response.

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The last evidence of his actual existence was his shoe laces hanging out Bush's back passage.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pligganease wrote:
US Population = 300,000,000
Troops in Iraq = 138,000
Percentage of U.S. population in Iraq = 0.046%

Australian Population = 20,000,000
Troops in Iraq = 1,000
Percentage of Australian population in Iraq = 0.005%

If Australia had 9200 troops in Iraq, it would be even.

Americans are the ones that are there and dying, and if Obama wants to tell the American people that he's going to bring their sons and daughters home, that's his right. While Howard is free to say what he wants, he apparently doesn't have the stones to practice what he's preaching.


That any nation is helping this Bush cock-up in any capacity is amazing in itself and Americans should be grateful. Bush made this mess, he's more than welcome to clean it up. The thing is Australia, Canada, France, et al are fighting the real war on the people who aided and abetted the people who attacked America on 9/11.

Of course the thanks those nations get when they want to actually fight the real war and not join Bush's (I talked to god) crusade in Iraq is anger and bile from the American public (Freedom Fries).
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
The thing is Australia, Canada, France, et al are fighting the real war on the people who aided and abetted the people who attacked America on 9/11.


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seoul_nhl



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
As long as Howard is president of a country with a thousand troops in Iraq, he has a vested interest and right to comment on who might be commander-in-chief of the coalition forces to which Australians are a part.


IF HE REALLY HAS A SAY SEND 21500 MORE TROOPS! Most of the troops that are in harms way are the U.S soldiers! So should Poland have a say in what goes on with its 200 soldiers. The Aussie PM has no business in US politics! Haven't heard Tony Blair make any comments. Even Canada has more involvement on the war on terror with the number of troops it has in Afghanistan. Go eat your Veggie mite MATE!
If you think this is anti-aussie rant your wrong I love the aussie's there good people but Howard is a tard!
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jinju



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a number of counties that have done more to help. Poland, England, yes, even South Korea yet its only that red neck asswipe Aussie PM talking out of his ass. The fact is that Australia's contribution based on their population and economy is pathetic, limp wristed and need a large dose of viagra. Good on Obama for pointing that out.
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