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piscin

Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: Public School Holidays |
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| I know it can vary from school to school, but is there usually two or three months holiday? |
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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The students and the Kteachers get about 40 days in summer and 40-50 days in winter.
EPIK teachers I think get about 14 days vacation
I get 4 weeks in my contract (I'm up to 6 already though).
It just depends, but no public school is going to give you teh same vacation treatment as the Kteachers. |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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My contract gives me 5 weeks. I've had 3 weeks so far, plus two more coming in February. The remainder will come in the summer.
Some programs, like EPIK and GEPIK, are pretty strict about how much vacation time they dole out. They still give more time than hagwon, but significantly less than other programs. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| kat2 wrote: |
The students and the Kteachers get about 40 days in summer and 40-50 days in winter.
EPIK teachers I think get about 14 days vacation
I get 4 weeks in my contract (I'm up to 6 already though).
It just depends, but no public school is going to give you teh same vacation treatment as the Kteachers. |
What most of us don't realise is that many of our Korean counterparts have "teachers training" during the holidays.
I have 6 co-workers at my school who got NO holidays to speak of during the winter break. They were attending teachers training.
Another co-workers had up to 5 weeks last summer but had to work the winter camp with us instead of a winter break. She will also NOT have a summer vacation this year because she has to attend teachers training.
We had 5 other homeroom teachers who were working some or all of the winter break as well.
Works out that about 1/2 of the KOREAN staff at our PUBLIC school were working over the winter break.
GEPIK teachers get 14 working days (not including weekends or holidays) - works out to 1 day short of 3 calendar weeks for their paid vacations along with a 2 calendar week trip home if they renew.
Sounds like 3-5 weeks to me. Many more get "unofficial" holiday time as well. According to the GEPIK home page this would be considered to be "cultural leave" to experience Korea.
For both K-teachers and F-teachers it mostly depends on the principal. |
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saybanana
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Location: LA
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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I work for GEPIK.
I only get 14 work days off or nearly 3 whole weeks. I usually place them around major holidays like my last one when I put it on around christmas and New years and so I felt like I got an extra 2 days off.
There are a few good holidays like Chuseok or Lunar New Year, but unless the fall on weekdays they are really 3 day weekends.
My school is really picky about giving me extra vacation time. Something about protecting taxpayer's money.
Here comes spring break, Ill be at my empty school, doing some teahing like a mini camp, with endless amounts of cleaning and preparing for the next semester until 5pm. At least I get Monday 19th off, and March 1st off.
For Korean teachers, most in my school took real vacations, except the 2 days they must come in to school. They choose to do teacher training to advance themselves and get more points. Foreign teahers, its mandatory they come in. They dont choose, hey, im going to use my vacation to be trained. Though I do wish there was some time so we can train to become better teachers, share ideas, and so on throughout the school year (I dont mean orientation). |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| They dont choose, hey, im going to use my vacation to be trained. Though I do wish there was some time so we can train to become better teachers, share ideas, and so on throughout the school year (I dont mean orientation). |
So you are sitting in your empty school...
do an on-line TESOL... (and grab a 100k per month raise when you finish),
pick your favorite "open university" and grab a few courses for personal or professional development.
You may not get "points" but life goes beyond the year or two you spend in Korea.
I can say that in our city they are planning a teachers workshop for us sometime in mid-March.
It took some work to get it going and the 1st one may not go as well as hoped but it is a start and hopefully we can continue it on a regular basis for pro-d.
Things are changing... I know when most are short timers it is hard to be patient... but patience lads... 50 short years ago this was a 3rd world country. |
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gmat

Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Things are changing... I know when most are short timers it is hard to be patient... but patience lads... 50 short years ago this was a 3rd world country. |
Dude, that's Lame
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| For Korean teachers, most in my school took real vacations, except the 2 days they must come in to school. |
Exactly the same here. Teachers here get about 70 days per year. |
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JeJuJitsu

Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Location: McDonald's
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| saybanana wrote: |
Here comes spring break, Ill be at my empty school, doing some teahing like a mini camp, with endless amounts of cleaning and preparing for the next semester until 5pm. At least I get Monday 19th off, and March 1st off.
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Damn, they got you cleaning? In a Public School?
Max out your sick days. Seriously. You should have 15 sick days in your contract. But the best way--sprain an ankle, that way doc will give you two weeks off, so you don't have to play ill. K Teachers certainly use their sick days at my school. One took off a month, to quit smoking. It worked for him. For a day. |
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Peter Jackson

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: School by school |
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I was hired privately (not through GEPIK, EPIK, etc) but the contract I signed was pretty close to the one used by GEPIK. The stated days off were 14 and at the time I thought it was standard. I got WAY more the 14 days (over 2 months and counting) as the school is small and in a rural location so interest in winter/summer camps was negligible. In terms of the Koreans getting a lot more holidays that was definately NOT the case at my school! I only taught two hours this month, and zero last month. All the while most (if not all) of the Koreans are on campus working their arses off. I really feel like a chump but there really is NOTHING for me to do until my contract is up on 28 FEB.
I didn't re-sign as I heard that they were going to stick to the standard GEPIK contract next year...
Vacations vary per school. Try to get hired by the school directly (my school received funding from the city NOT the education office). |
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saybanana
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Location: LA
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| JeJuJitsu wrote: |
| saybanana wrote: |
Here comes spring break, Ill be at my empty school, doing some teahing like a mini camp, with endless amounts of cleaning and preparing for the next semester until 5pm. At least I get Monday 19th off, and March 1st off.
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Damn, they got you cleaning? In a Public School?
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I dont have to clean, nor do I want to clean, but I want to be in a clean room.(if that makes sense). My classroom is really dirty. Dust everywhere, throw old papers, organize materials and books. Its like spring cleaning. The students assigned to clean my room suck. They do such a poor job, that Id rather have the job be done right the first time or not at all. I hate when they use the same dirty towel to clean the tables, the blackboard and then last the teacher's desk. I mean gross. Germs all over my desk.
I am jealous of those who get more vacation time. You won the lottery if you got the full month off. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| saybanana wrote: |
| I am jealous of those who get more vacation time. You won the lottery if you got the full month off. |
If you want more holiday time... apply to my school. I could use a good co-worker. |
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Thumbnail Postermonkey
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| I signed a crap 10 month contract, but it's turning up roses for me....I've worked about 30 minutes in the last 7 work days and I'm up for 17 calendar days of paid holiday tomorrow until the 4th of March. So, it's OKOK with me!! |
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newinseoul

Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:26 am Post subject: |
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SMOE is currently offering 21 paid working days of vacation.
Now whether or not we can take that anytime we want is debatable. Since there is a clause that we may have to work summer and winter camps. How many days of that we have to work is also highly up in the air, as it doesn't say anything on the contract about it. |
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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly I think the best thing for all of us is to not discuss this in a public forum. Alot of school have contracts but don't really follow them. So I very seldom talk about it. Some follow to the letter and some don't the best thing is to avoid mentioning it or talking about it.
I know this seems silly but it is better for all of us if we keep our vacation time private. Of course we get public holidays and random days. But my advice is to not discuss it with anyone otherwise the schools will start to enforce to the letter.
Jade |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Can anyone guess why Korean school vacations are the opposite of those in the West. i.e. We take a two month Summer vacation and a one month winter. They do the opposite here. Why? |
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