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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: None Of Your Business! |
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None Of Your Business!
By Rep Ron Paul
2-9-7
You may not have heard of the American Community Survey, but you will. The national census, which historically is taken every ten years, has expanded to quench the federal bureaucracy's ever-growing thirst to govern every aspect of American life. The new survey, unlike the traditional census, is taken each and every year at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars. And it's not brief. It contains 24 pages of intrusive questions concerning matters that simply are none of the government's business, including your job, your income, your physical and emotional health, your family status, your dwelling, and your intimate personal habits.
The questions are both ludicrous and insulting. The survey asks, for instance, how many bathrooms you have in your house, how many miles you drive to work, how many days you were sick last year, and whether you have trouble getting up stairs. It goes on and on, mixing inane questions with highly detailed inquiries about your financial affairs. One can only imagine the countless malevolent ways our federal bureaucrats could use this information. At the very least the survey will be used to dole out pork, which is reason enough to oppose it.
Keep in mind the survey is not voluntary, nor is the Census Bureau asking politely. Americans are legally obligated to answer, and can be fined up to $1,000 per question if they refuse!
I introduced an amendment last week that would have eliminated funds for this intrusive survey in a spending bill, explaining on the House floor that perhaps the American people don't appreciate being threatened by Big Brother. The amendment was met by either indifference or hostility, as most members of Congress either don't care about or actively support government snooping into the private affairs of citizens.
One of the worst aspects of the census is its focus on classifying people by race. When government tells us it wants information to "help" any given group, it assumes every individual who shares certain physical characteristics has the same interests, or wants the same things from government. This is an inherently racist and offensive assumption. The census, like so many federal policies and programs, inflames racism by encouraging Americans to see themselves as members of racial groups fighting each other for a share of the federal pie.
The census also represents a form of corporate welfare, since the personal data collected on hundred of millions of Americans can be sold to private businesses. Surely business enjoys having such extensive information available from one source, but it's hardly the duty of taxpayers to subsidize the cost of market research.
At least the national census has its origins in the Constitution, which is more than one can say about the vast majority of programs funded by Congress. Still, Article I makes it clear that the census should be taken every ten years for the sole purpose of congressional redistricting (and apportionment of taxes, prior to the disastrous 16th amendment). This means a simple count of the number of people living in a given area, so that numerically equal congressional districts can be maintained. The founders never authorized the federal government to continuously survey the American people.
More importantly, they never envisioned a nation where the people would roll over and submit to every government demand. The American Community Survey is patently offensive to all Americans who still embody that fundamental American virtue, namely a healthy mistrust of government.
The information demanded in the new survey is none of the government's business, and the American people should insist that Congress reject it now before it becomes entrenched.
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: Re: None Of Your Business! |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
Keep in mind the survey is not voluntary, nor is the Census Bureau asking politely. Americans are legally obligated to answer, and can be fined up to $1,000 per question if they refuse! |
Yeah, but you don't have to answer truthfully. I claimed 14 household members on my last census survey (I lived in a Democratic district, BTW). |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Or you could just calm down, stop being so freaking paranoid and give them the information you feel like giving them while participating in the world's largest survey. |
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: Re: None Of Your Business! |
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| REP RON PAUL wrote: |
| your physical and emotional heath |
Why should I believe a guy who can't use the spell checker? |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: Re: None Of Your Business! |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
| REP RON PAUL wrote: |
| your physical and emotional heath |
Why should I believe a guy who can't use the spell checker? |
Maybe he meant this Heath:
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Sincinnatislink

Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Location: Top secret.
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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I like lying on surveys.
I've claimed to be part of a large clique of huffers who live in 80k+ households before. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Er we are six men of middle eastern origin with degrees in Electrical Engineering, Bio-Chemistry, Aviation, Structural Engineering, American-Persian History, and Media Arts. Currently unemployed we all drive European sports cars. In our free time we enjoy watching Al-Jazeera, getting our pilots licenses and going to rodeo shows. We only have one bathroom.
Is that what the feds are hoping to find? |
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dutchy pink
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:47 am Post subject: |
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blah blah blah, out of all the bs questions you have been asked and answered in your life how is this different. who cares. You are spending your time reading and responding to bs questions just by being on Daves,
what's the difference? |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| Ron Paul is a great American. He opposed the Iraq war and the stupid census questions. He defends liberty. Someone I've known for 3 decades. He would have been a great President (1988) and still would be better than anyone we've ever had. |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: None Of Your Business! |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| igotthisguitar wrote: |
Keep in mind the survey is not voluntary, nor is the Census Bureau asking politely. Americans are legally obligated to answer, and can be fined up to $1,000 per question if they refuse! |
Yeah, but you don't have to answer truthfully. I claimed 14 household members on my last census survey (I lived in a Democratic district, BTW). |
You don't have to answer at all. I was a census enumerator back in 2000 going around to houses that missed the first sweep for whatever reason. We were taught to be observant and get as much info. as possible if the residents didn't answer or couldn't be contacted. We could go to neighbors, observe and count people we actually saw and other non-confrontational methods. Most people refused to answer income related questions and often refused to answer questions about family members living in the house. I even had a knife pulled on me once by some whacko (probably an open-minded lefty) strung out on something. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
| Ron Paul is a great American. He opposed the Iraq war and the stupid census questions. He defends liberty. Someone I've known for 3 decades. He would have been a great President (1988) and still would be better than anyone we've ever had. |
If genuinely progressive policy reform & straight shooting is what the public wants, then clearly the US political establishment needs more like him
| dutchy pink wrote: |
| blah blah blah, out of all the bs questions you have been asked and answered in your life how is this different. who cares. You are spending your time reading and responding to bs questions just by being on Daves, what's the difference? |
C-H-O-I-C-E vs. phony state coercion. |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| dutchy pink wrote: |
blah blah blah, out of all the bs questions you have been asked and answered in your life how is this different. who cares. You are spending your time reading and responding to bs questions just by being on Daves,
what's the difference? |
What's the difference? The info on that census could be used in all manner of manipulative ways against the population ... |
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