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freethought
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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 Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: Why the Korean media hates us |
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| Not going to go on a big long rant, but all these people who come on this board complaining and going ape-poop over what the Korean media says about foreigners need only to look at comments made on this forum every day to understand why they report and say the things they do. |
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excitinghead
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Not to overanalyse, but no, what the Korean media says about us has got nothing to do with comments on this board. You could say anything you like about foreigners in Korea and find comments on this board to back them up...for some strange reason though, what is said about us is almost always negative!
Besides which, basing reports on foreigners on TV on 'evidence' gathered from boards like this isn't journalism, it's just muck-raking. |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Why the Korean media hates us |
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| freethought wrote: |
| Not going to go on a big long rant, but all these people who come on this board complaining and going ape-poop over what the Korean media says about foreigners need only to look at comments made on this forum every day to understand why they report and say the things they do. |
Yes, so why don't you STOP making comments? |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: yes |
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I think this is a case of a chicken/egg argument.
Koreans have a proverb just like us...do unto others.... you know the rest. But they don't live it.
I guess many foreigners also don't, but if they want to be the righteous ones, they have to change their ways. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The Korean media has recently been showing how sometimes get a raw deal, so it is nto a black and white situation. Sometimes, they see how we have a point and sometimes the system is prejudiced against us. They sometimes say bad stuff about people from other foreign nationalities not just Westerners. So I don't really agree with this idea that we deserve being slammed by the media because most of work hard to educate their kids and most of us are good, kind people just like most Koreans. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: ys |
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But when Koreans critique themselves, it is usually hagwon owners. I think even Korean people don't like hagwon owners. That's barely generous to us.
If they would start critiquing their whole visa and immigration system, I'd take notice.
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| The Korean media has recently been showing how sometimes get a raw deal, so it is nto a black and white situation. Sometimes, they see how we have a point and sometimes the system is prejudiced against us. They sometimes say bad stuff about people from other foreign nationalities not just Westerners. So I don't really agree with this idea that we deserve being slammed by the media because most of work hard to educate their kids and most of us are good, kind people just like most Koreans. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| all these people who come on this board complaining and going ape-poop over what the Korean media says about foreigners need only to look at comments made on this forum every day to understand why they report and say the things they do. |
I think your point, while well taken, would be better directed at the General Discussion Forum. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| all these people who come on this board complaining and going ape-poop over what the Korean media says about foreigners need only to look at comments made on this forum every day to understand why they report and say the things they do. |
I think your point, while well taken, would be better directed at the General Discussion Forum. |
Why? Is General Discussion Forum more prone to bashing Korea(ns), or is this topic just more relevant there, or both? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Why the Korean media hates us |
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| freethought wrote: |
| Not going to go on a big long rant, but all these people who come on this board complaining and going ape-poop over what the Korean media says about foreigners need only to look at comments made on this forum every day to understand why they report and say the things they do. |
I think the Korean media reads a lot of message boards, both Korean language and English, and I'm sure we're not doing anything the Koreans are not. As far as I know we've never e-stalked our own version of the dog dung lady and got people fired from their jobs because they broke up with their GF... |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| On the other hand wrote: |
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| all these people who come on this board complaining and going ape-poop over what the Korean media says about foreigners need only to look at comments made on this forum every day to understand why they report and say the things they do. |
I think your point, while well taken, would be better directed at the General Discussion Forum. |
Why? Is General Discussion Forum more prone to bashing Korea(ns), or is this topic just more relevant there, or both? |
Let me out it this way...
If there is Korea-bashing on this site, the vast majority of it is likely to be happening in General Discussion. I mean, how many threads in Current Events are even about Korea? |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| excitinghead wrote: |
Not to overanalyse, but no, what the Korean media says about us has got nothing to do with comments on this board. You could say anything you like about foreigners in Korea and find comments on this board to back them up...for some strange reason though, what is said about us is almost always negative!
Besides which, basing reports on foreigners on TV on 'evidence' gathered from boards like this isn't journalism, it's just muck-raking. |
That's bang on, a polite and accurate way to say that the OP makes no sense at all ... |
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freethought
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:16 am Post subject: |
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I put it in this board mainly because that's where a lot of crap goes down. Seriously, 4 mega threads on evolution being false, multiple new threads on global warming being fake every day. I wouldn't want these crazies teaching my kids (mind you I would never send my kid to a hagwon... and I don't have any...).
But on the whole the way people carry themselves on this board is abysmal and is growing worse. Much, much worse since I left the first time in May of 05. The language, the insults, the points of view, the bigotry.
If you're from America, Britain, Canada etc, just think of what would happen in your country if a 50 thousand plus immigrant work force carried on in this way on the main website for their community....
I'm totally for free speech, vehemently and aggressively for it, but when I shoot my mouth off I expect and am willing to live with the consequences.
As for whether Koreans read this board, anybody remember what happened to english spectrum... |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| freethought wrote: |
But on the whole the way people carry themselves on this board is abysmal and is growing worse. Much, much worse since I left the first time in May of 05. The language, the insults, the points of view, the bigotry. |
I agree, and you're a prime example.
You're suggesting that negative portrayals of foriegners in Korean media is directly related to things said on this site. That is patently false and displays a lack of logical analytical skills that is frankly quite breathtaking.
Korean society, and by logical extension the media, has had a strong xenophobic undercurrent sinse well before the advent of the internet. This is well documented and not up for debate. The prime motivation of media is to make money, thus media does not "drive" public opinion, it "reflects" public opinion.
I've no doubt this site is read by people in Korean media, and quite possibly things said here are used to support anti foreigner retoric. The key thing to understand however is that the Korean media already had this position a long time ago, and things found on dave will only be used as "ammo" for an already fixed position. The idea that things said here are a direct cause of the anti foriegner bias of Korean media is so far off it's simply absurd.
My advice to OP, stop trying to think, it's not your strong point ... |
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Paji eh Wong
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:52 am Post subject: |
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You might as well assign intentionality to Howdy Doody as the Korean media. They are both merely doing as they are told.
The media appears to hate us because some segments of Korean society find it expedient to focus the body politic on us. We are, by in large, a Korean made "problem", and the hatred has little to do with our behaviour. The hatred has to do with feelings of failure Koreans are facing in education and in relating to the rest of the world.
That said, your post had nothing to do with the media as it was an opportunity to denounce the board. Feeling better cupcake? |
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freethought
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: |
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My OP was an attack on the level of discourse on this board, the actual things being said, and the complaining that goes on when anything negative is said about foreigners in the Korean media.
When the media says foreigners are evil, dumb, bigotted, intolerant, disrespectful etc, we go nuts. But look at the behaviour that's displayed on this board. IF the things said and the opinions expressed on this board are any indication of the behaviour of foreigners off the board, it's little wonder that the things said about us in the Korean media are being written. I thought people would see the connection, and obviously it was too sutble or unclear.
But not being able to 'think', that's just brilliant and essentially proves my point. Level of discourse is wikipedia and insults. |
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