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dimnd



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Western USA

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:39 am    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i left my job!!!! no complainer, i!!! or rather, i was, but i had the guts to quit.
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dimnd



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Western USA

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:00 am    Post subject: know you are not a complainer Reply with quote

gl for future...but you are the minority..I am sure you know:)
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't you the one who complained about your son's treatment at a school in Gumi, in multiple posts. I remember he wasn't gettnig paid, his apartment had prblems and his boss was entering his apartment unannounced. You made tons of posts about it.
You couldn't get hin tio quit, either.

Anywho, correct me if I'm wrong, but how will others know about poor jobs unless people voice their complaints?
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goodgood



Joined: 22 Nov 2006
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. But I suppose if McDonalds or Price Waterhouse or GM had a job complaint board like our job has, it would be the same sh*t. People love to whine, and where else do you get to do it like at ESLcafe?

(plus a lot of the people who are here were probably fired from McDonalds for incompetence, so it's even worse- forget the whiners- this board isn't real life)
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gsxr750r



Joined: 29 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're not allowed to whine here (belief of some, but not me).

If you have any problems with Korea, then you should go home (also a belief of some).

By the way, you must eat Korean food, and like it.
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plokiju



Joined: 15 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if people are necessarily whining when they post here. Sure, there are tons of negative stuff but usually people are looking for some kind of advice to improve their situation. There are a few idle whiners though.

About the contract thing, a lot of complaints are about things that turned out to be different than what was stated in the contract. You can usually tell which posts are going to be about problems at work, there's no gun to your head either forcing you to read them.
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English_Ocean



Joined: 17 Mar 2006
Location: You don't have the right to abuse me!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's right, each and everyone signed a contract. No gun was pointed to my head. But, as soon as I arrived the schdule was changed. Now I'm working splits, something I didn't want! Also, there are no taxes, no medical and no pension monies taken from my pay.
Trouble with the taxman, no medical coverage and I'm not going to get the pension due to me. The thing that really pisses me off is the fact that when I take off, I Have to pay for my ticket home! I didn't break the contract, they did yet I'm the one who's paying in the end!
Crying or Very sad
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dimnd



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Western USA

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: changes Reply with quote

Yup.

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dimnd



Joined: 19 May 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Never heard so many complaints about a job


Have you had any other jobs? I'd say the complaining here is on par with what you will hear back home at the watering hole for 90% of jobs. I actually believe the complaining here is far less (and more legit) than what I heard on a daily basis in the teacher's lounge at the public high school I worked at back home. People everywhere complain about their jobs. It's what humans do. Get used to it or go find a nice ethereal planet where this doesn't happen.
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate it when people complain about complainers.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hubba bubba wrote:
I hate it when people complain about complainers.


Oh yeah? I can top that: I hate it when people complain about people who complain about complainters!
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on the complaint. I didn't realize it until I came to Korea but in our culture, we seem to relate to other people by finding shared complaints. It was a Korean friend who noticed this. She realized whenever two foreigners were on a subway, their topic of conversation was almost universally a complaint about Korea. I complain a lot to my whitey friends but I love it here as well.

Sometimes one complains here and finds out that your situation isn't so bad. Hopefully the others set you right.

Sometimes one complains and finds a solution that doesn't involve running on your contract.

But yes if your work situation is untenable and you complain and do nothing, well, okay. But I'm not sure I know too many people that stick out such a situation.

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each and every Complainant signed their own contracts..no gun to the head.!!!


I have to say, your writing sucks ass. How did you a) get to be so old and not learn to write a coherent paragraph b) get to be an English teacher?

That complaint aside, I think the major complaints are not with the contract signed and ostensibly mutually agreed too but with the contract items the boss is trying to break.

Anyway, OP, can you give some concrete examples?


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