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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: IBM'er says Vista's RAM sweet spot is 4GB |
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IBM'er says Vista's RAM sweet spot is 4GB
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Microsoft's on-the-box minimum RAM requirement "really isn't realistic," according to David Short, an IBM consultant who works in its company's Global Services Divison. He says users should consider 4GB of RAM if they really want optimum Vista performance. With 512MB of RAM, Vista will deliver performance that's "sub-XP," he warned.
Short has been beta testing Vista for two years and was at the IBM-oriented Share user group conference in Tampa, Fla., last week discussing some of Vista's performance requirements. His XP system has 2GB of RAM, which he calls the "sweet spot" for that operating system, but on Vista, 4GB of RAM may be closer to its "Nirvana," he said.
That's due in part to Windows SuperFetch, which takes data from the hard drive, stores it in the available RAM and makes it readily accessible to the processor. SuperFetch depends a great deal on user predictability and takes snapshots of user activity. If SuperFetch determines that an application is launched at a particular time, it will have it loaded into the available RAM. With more RAM, there's more caching and better software response, said Short. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: hmm |
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Hey...
Thanks for posting that...I have been thinking about buying a new computer...so that is some good information to have on mind.
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm almost like the real reality of the tech forum considering how many news items I post here. Unlike RR I actually do talk and participate though... |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I noticed that 2 gigs is pretty lamo..
I want two more gigs. |
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crsandus
Joined: 05 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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I remember when I had 8MB of RAM on my 386 and I was jealous of my friend who just got a 486 and it had 16 MB of RAM!!!
I can't believe Windows has gotten so bloated that 4GB is the sweet spot... I've had harddrives half that size. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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All this for DX10.
Dang Vista is ridiculous. This has to be the lamest MS move since Windows ME. We are being strung along, techies. We are eagerly scarfing down a candy-coated poopbar on the end of a $300 leash.
The more I hear about this OS, the more upset I become. I have no doubt that this will be my first illegitimate OS. Damn the torpedoes...I'll be firing up torrent when DX10 and games that support it become the norm, but I tell you....I'll be kicking and screaming all the way. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| crsandus wrote: |
I remember when I had 8MB of RAM on my 386 and I was jealous of my friend who just got a 486 and it had 16 MB of RAM!!!
I can't believe Windows has gotten so bloated that 4GB is the sweet spot... I've had harddrives half that size. |
shoot I remember the first new computer I bought had a 1 GB Hard drive!!! The computer the wife used through grad school had a 700MB hard drive.
I thought it was a big deal to get that first computers RAM up to 40MB so I could run SPSS in 1998, today I'm upgrading my current one to 2 GB
unbelievable |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
All this for DX10.
Dang Vista is ridiculous. This has to be the lamest MS move since Windows ME. We are being strung along, techies. We are eagerly scarfing down a candy-coated poopbar on the end of a $300 leash.
The more I hear about this OS, the more upset I become. I have no doubt that this will be my first illegitimate OS. Damn the torpedoes...I'll be firing up torrent when DX10 and games that support it become the norm, but I tell you....I'll be kicking and screaming all the way. |
exactly. The money you'll have to spend to get the DX10 to do what it is meant to do is exhorbitant (SP?). Nothing, absolutely nothing within the next 6 months to a year will use it. Don't bother! XP is going to be with me until at least 2009. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Without trying to come to MS's defense, you have to see that this progression all relative. Applications have gotten more demanding, hardware even more. All because of US users.
I remember needing 11-12 3.5" floppy disks to load Wing Commander III, so everything has gotten bloated. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| rocklee wrote: |
Without trying to come to MS's defense, you have to see that this progression all relative. Applications have gotten more demanding, hardware even more. All because of US users.
I remember needing 11-12 3.5" floppy disks to load Wing Commander III, so everything has gotten bloated. |
There will be no applications released within the next 5 years that XP will not run well, save those based on DX10. Vista isn't a new kernel...
Fundamentally, there isn't much functional improvement in Vista. Superfetch (oh, save me precious seconds!), data execution prevention (thanks, but I'm not a twit), and non-kernel based drivers (when was the last time a crummy driver hosed your system?) doesn't do enough for me.
Sounds like the makings of SP3, not a new OS.
Ugh....enough Vista slamming already. It is what it is, love it or hate it. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Hehe.. I actually turned off the Eye candy I do like the performance boost tho.. I actually maxed out my ram with some of my models... Normal stuff its not a problem.. The problem exists when I load some giant ass models and go and render them. Its MUCH faster in Vista then XP64.
Vista also handles multiple screen much better as well.
I use my laptop for Modeling and use Mental Ray satelite for rendering.. Its a god send. |
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